On 6/8/12 3:12 PM, Ian Hayes wrote: > On Fri, Jun 8, 2012 at 2:41 PM, Christian Sciberras <[email protected]> wrote: >> Perhaps the US Government would gain better results by mass protests and >> chanting peace songs. >> >> Or perhaps it just doesn't work this way. >> >> They shouldn't be blamed, everyone knows fighting fire with fire is very >> effective, just as everyone >> knows the people calling the government names are the same ones with small >> botnets lying about. >> Can't blame them, now that someone else is using their own tools against >> them. > I call upon the ghost of Heinlein: "Anyone who clings to the > historically untrue—and thoroughly immoral—doctrine that, ‘violence > never settles anything’ I would advise to conjure the ghosts of > Napoleon Bonaparte and the Duke of Wellington and let them debate it. > The ghost of Hitler could referee, and the jury might well be the > Dodo, the Great Auk and the Passenger Pigeon. Violence, naked force, > has settled more issues in history than has any other factor, and the > contrary opinion is wishful thinking at its worst. Breeds that forget > this basic truth have always paid for it with their lives and > freedom.” > > There are those out there in power who only know the language of > brute, naked force. No amount of cajoling, pleading, bargaining nor > wheedling will sway them. On appeals to their better nature, no > brilliant displays of logic and intellect. Pretty words uttered by > politicians fall on deaf ears. But a punch to the nose, a kick to the > nuts -the universal language of violence- that's something they > understand intimately. And they respect that. Of course it's always > preferable to sit down at the negotiating table and barter out a > peace. What do we do when they knock over the table and make a mess? > > What separates us from them is the fact that we normally don't speak > the universal language from the get-go. Is it deplorable? Yes. But > like having to take a crap every now and then, it's necessary. The > murder of civilans is certainly a terrible crime, but that and the > release of some malware that breaks centrifuges is certainly better > than other options. > > _______________________________________________ > Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. > Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html > Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ I don't see how Iran developing nuclear power is a threat, I'm sorry to me this just seems like more fear mongering.
And remember the only nation that has ever shown itself *insane* enough to actually use nuclear weapons on other human beings is the USA and history showed the use was completely unwarranted. I don't get why we can have literally enough nuclear weapons to wipe out all life on the surface of the planet but Iran developing nuclear *power* is somehow a national security threat. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
