On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 11:40 PM, inode0 <[email protected]> wrote: > On Thu, Mar 22, 2012 at 12:28 PM, Buddhike Kurera > <[email protected]> wrote: >> Hello >> >> IMO, this depends on the way the requests are evaluated. >> Last time at FUDCon Pune, the requests were evaluated on first come >> first served basis. >> If the same will apply on the FUDCon KL, then there is no harm taking >> requests before the >> deadline. > > This practice has been very widely criticized as unfair and I hope you > evaluate all the requests based on the criteria here > > http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Sponsoring_event_attendees > > which says nothing about extra points for being eager to request a > subsidy. Some people try to arrange alternate funding or self-funding > but can't and so reluctantly request a subsidy from Fedora near the > deadline and they should not be disadvantaged for doing that (if > anything they should be rewarded for doing that). > > Regardless of when a request is made though, it should be evaluated as > described in the link above. > > Have you given thought to who will be the group of contributors who > will make these decisions? Will it include people who have pending > requests in the queue? Will it include anyone who notices the > announcement and shows up to the meeting tomorrow? > >> IMO, deadline was set to make sure that no subsidy request will be >> made/ entertained after the deadline. > > No, the point of a deadline is that your request will be considered if > it is made by the deadline. Requests can't be fairly considered if you > award 50% (or any other amount) of the funding at some arbitrary point > before the deadline based on only a fraction of the total requests. > >> But there is no note on the evaluation of requests or how it is >> carried out. As inode0 >> noted may be announcement of the subsidy meeting before one day may create >> some >> problems with the reporters to prepare. (As far as I can remember, >> this was discussed at the last >> planning meeting, so I think there is a slight awareness about this >> before hand,) Other than that I >> see no harm evaluating requests before the deadline. Major thing is it >> saves some $$$. >> >> Thanks inode0 for noting this, the organizing team will take required >> action on this. > > Prices do fluctuate and there isn't any guarantee doing it now will > save money (although I agree it likely will but at a cost). But you > could have made that argument last week or the week before as well. > Why do four more days make such a difference now all of a sudden? The > harm is following a process where the rules keep changing in ways that > can easily seem unfair and biased to the community. It is more > important than $$$ to me that the entire APAC community is confident > that this process is fair to everyone. > > I won't keep harping on this since I guess the decision has been made > at this point to start awarding subsidies before the submission > deadline. I'll just be content being on the record as strongly > opposing doing that. > > John
Hello I am not speaking on behalf the organizing team. However I am not aware on how the evaluation will be carried out. inode0 has raised an important issue as I see, if the requests are not evaluated as first come, first serve (FC, FS) basis. I understood that the evaluation should be carried out as per the guideline[1] and I agree with that rather than entertaining the request on FC, FS basis. Thanks inode0 again for raising this. [1] http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Sponsoring_event_attendees#Criteria -- Regards, Buddhike Chandradeepa Kurera(bckurera) Fedora Ambassador - APAC region Event Liaison - Design Team Email: [email protected] | IRC: bckurera _______________________________________________ fudcon-planning mailing list [email protected] https://admin.fedoraproject.org/mailman/listinfo/fudcon-planning
