On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 12:53 PM 'Nasser M. Abbasi' via FriCAS -
computer algebra system <[email protected]> wrote:
>
> "Do you use system-wide fricas installations?"
>
> I am not sure what do you mean by this.

Sage can build a copy of FriCAS for you. Otherwise, it would try to
use the external (system-wide, or otherwise found in PATH)


> I  build and installed Fricas using instructions give and
> it gets installed to
>
> which fricas
> /usr/local/bin/fricas
>
> Downloaded the Fricas zip file and did
>
>          ./configure && make && sudo make install
>
> This is all on Linux Virtual Box, Same one I run Fricas 1.3.10 on. So the 
> above command will overwrite 1.3.10 and
> replace it with 1.3.11.
>
> I will try sagemath 10.4 when it is out. I do not know how to use github and 
> things like this.

github is a website, too. I presume you know how use there :-)
The link I provided does not imply you need to "use" github in any other way.

>
> I download sagemath zip file and build it as I always do using
>
>   ./configure
>    make
>
> Then point it to use the external build Fricas. This is because sagemath does 
> not come with latest Fricas.

I don't know what you mean by " point it to use the external build Fricas".
Normally speaking you should be building Sage starting from

./configure --enable-fricas
(and then, make)

After ./configure finishes running you can see in its output (or in config.log)
whether it will use a system-wide FriCAS, or build its own copy.

Dima


>
> Regards
> --Nasser
>
>
>
>
>
> On Wednesday, July 3, 2024 at 6:41:04 AM UTC-5 Dima Pasechnik wrote:
>>
>> On Wed, Jul 3, 2024 at 11:57 AM 'Nasser M. Abbasi' via FriCAS -
>> computer algebra system <[email protected]> wrote:
>> >
>> > FYI,
>> > Just finished running the independent CAS integration tests using 1.3.11. 
>> > This has 106812 integrals in total.
>> >
>> > I've put plain text file of the initial notes here in case this below gets 
>> > reformatted.
>> >
>> > Here are the content of the above also. Basically Fricas 1.3.11 passed 
>> > 82,445 and 1.3.10 had passed 82,473. But looking more, I found 18 new 
>> > exceptions which did not happen before.
>> >
>> > These all seem to be same, but I only had time to try two of them. Running 
>> > the integrals in Fricas 1.3.11 they work. But in sagemath it gives
>> >
>> > Heap exhausted during allocation: 4128768 bytes available, 8305312 
>> > requested.
>>
>> By the way,
>> https://github.com/sagemath/sage/pull/37041
>> allows the use of system-wide sbcl to build FriCAS in Sage.
>> You have it in the latest Sage rc versions.
>>
>>
>>
>> >
>> > Not sure why now this happens, as I am using same sage 10.3 on same PC I 
>> > used in testing Fricas 1.3.10. And why they work inside 1.3.11 but not in 
>> > sagemath now.
>>
>> Do you use system-wide fricas installations?
>>
>> Dima
>>
>> >
>> > It could be Fricas 1.3.11 runs with more RAM now than 1.3.10.
>> >
>> > I will also post this to sagemath group and see what they say.
>> >
>> > --------------------------------------- 
>> > NOTES----------------------------------------
>> >
>> > Notes on Fricas 1.3.11 integration testing
>> > =========================================== >which fricas 
>> > /usr/local/bin/fricas >fricas --version FriCAS 1.3.11 based on sbcl 2.4.5 
>> > >which sage /home/me/TMP/sage-10.3/sage >sage --version SageMath version 
>> > 10.3, Release Date: 2024-03-19 >uname -a Linux me-virtualbox 
>> > 6.6.32-1-MANJARO #1 SMP PREEMPT_DYNAMIC Mon May 27 03:41:25 UTC 2024 
>> > x86_64 GNU/Linux lsb_release -a LSB Version: n/a Distributor ID: 
>> > ManjaroLinux Description: Manjaro Linux Release: 24.0.2 Codename: Wynsdey 
>> > grep MemTotal /proc/meminfo MemTotal: 50189304 kB Note 1: File 355 has 18 
>> > failed integrals due to "There are no library operations named 
>> > exp_integral_e " Data 1.3.11 information about Fricase 
>> > ------------------------------------- >sqlite3 cas_integration_tests.db 
>> > #total number of integrals sqlite> select count(*) from main; 106812 
>> > #number all failed by Fricas 1.3.11 sqlite> select count(*) from main 
>> > where fricas_pass=0 or fricas_pass=-1 or fricas_pass=-2; 24367 #number 
>> > normal failed by Fricas 1.3.11 sqlite> select count(*) from main where 
>> > fricas_pass=0; 17516 #number timedout failed by Fricas 1.3.11 sqlite> 
>> > select count(*) from main where fricas_pass=-1; 4498 #number exceptions 
>> > failed by Fricas 1.3.11 sqlite> select count(*) from main where 
>> > fricas_pass=-2; 2353 #number passed by Fricas 1.3.11 sqlite> select 
>> > count(*) from main where fricas_pass=1; 82445 Regression: This is list of 
>> > problem numbers which generated Exception in 1.3.11 not in 1.3.10 (these 
>> > are -2 code). ============================================================ 
>> > 105424 105425 105431 105432 105508 105509 105725 105726 105803 105804 
>> > 105976 105977 106138 106139 Here are the above integral commands to try 
>> > sqlite> select command_in_fricas from main where rowid=105424; 
>> > integrate((x^4-1)*(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2)/(x^4+1),x, algorithm="fricas") 
>> > sqlite> select command_in_fricas from main where rowid=105425; 
>> > integrate((x^4-1)*(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2)/(x^4+1),x, algorithm="fricas") 
>> > sqlite> select command_in_fricas from main where rowid=105431; 
>> > integrate((x^4-1)*(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2)/(1+x)^(1/2)/(x^4+1),x, 
>> > algorithm="fricas") sqlite> select command_in_fricas from main where 
>> > rowid=105432; 
>> > integrate((x^4-1)*(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2)/(1+x)^(1/2)/(x^4+1),x, 
>> > algorithm="fricas") sqlite> select command_in_fricas from main where 
>> > rowid=105508; 
>> > integrate((x^2-1)/(1+x)^(1/2)/(x^2+1)/(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2)/(1+(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2))^(1/2),x,
>> >  algorithm="fricas") sqlite> select command_in_fricas from main where 
>> > rowid=105509; 
>> > integrate((x^2-1)/(1+x)^(1/2)/(x^2+1)/(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2)/(1+(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2))^(1/2),x,
>> >  algorithm="fricas") sqlite> select command_in_fricas from main where 
>> > rowid=105725; 
>> > integrate((1+x)^(1/2)*(x^4-1)*(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2)/(x^4+1),x, 
>> > algorithm="fricas") sqlite> select command_in_fricas from main where 
>> > rowid=105726; 
>> > integrate((1+x)^(1/2)*(x^4-1)*(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2)/(x^4+1),x, 
>> > algorithm="fricas") sqlite> select command_in_fricas from main where 
>> > rowid=105803; 
>> > integrate((x^2-1)/(1+x)^(1/2)/(x^2+1)/(1+(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2))^(1/2),x, 
>> > algorithm="fricas") sqlite> select command_in_fricas from main where 
>> > rowid=105804; 
>> > integrate((x^2-1)/(1+x)^(1/2)/(x^2+1)/(1+(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2))^(1/2),x, 
>> > algorithm="fricas") sqlite> select command_in_fricas from main where 
>> > rowid=105976; 
>> > integrate((x^2-1)/(x^2+1)/(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2)/(1+(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2))^(1/2),x,
>> >  algorithm="fricas") sqlite> select command_in_fricas from main where 
>> > rowid=105977; 
>> > integrate((x^2-1)/(x^2+1)/(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2)/(1+(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2))^(1/2),x,
>> >  algorithm="fricas") sqlite> select command_in_fricas from main where 
>> > rowid=106138; integrate((x^2-1)/(x^2+1)/(1+(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2))^(1/2),x, 
>> > algorithm="fricas") sqlite> select command_in_fricas from main where 
>> > rowid=106139; integrate((x^2-1)/(x^2+1)/(1+(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2))^(1/2),x, 
>> > algorithm="fricas") sqlite> Now let me try few of the above and see what 
>> > is going on 
>> > -------------------------------------------------------------------- This 
>> > one works OK in Fricas 1.3.11 but gives exception in sagemath 10.3 
>> > integrate((x^4-1)*(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2)/(x^4+1),x, algorithm="fricas") 
>> > >sage │ SageMath version 10.3, Release Date: 2024-03-19 │ │ Using 
>> > Python 3.11.1. Type "help()" for help. │ sage: var('x a b c d') (x, a, 
>> > b, c, d) sage: integrate((x^4-1)*(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2)/(x^4+1),x, 
>> > algorithm="fricas") 
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >  RuntimeError Traceback (most recent call last) Cell In[2], line 1 ----> 1 
>> > integrate((x**Integer(4)-Integer(1))*(Integer(1)+(Integer(1)+x)**(Integer(1)/Integer(2)))**(Integer(1)/Integer(2))/(x**Integer(4)+Integer(1)),x,
>> >  algorithm="fricas") File ~/TMP/sage-10.3/src/sage/misc/functional.py:788, 
>> > in integral(x, *args, **kwds) 655 """ 656 Return an indefinite or definite 
>> > integral of an object ``x``. 657 (...) 785 786 """ 787 if hasattr(x, 
>> > 'integral'): --> 788 return x.integral(*args, **kwds) 789 else: 790 from 
>> > sage.symbolic.ring import SR File 
>> > ~/TMP/sage-10.3/src/sage/symbolic/expression.pyx:13268, in 
>> > sage.symbolic.expression.Expression.integral() 13266 R = SR 13267 return 
>> > R(integral(f, v, a, b, **kwds)) > 13268 return integral(self, *args, 
>> > **kwds) 13269 13270 integrate = integral File 
>> > ~/TMP/sage-10.3/src/sage/symbolic/integration/integral.py:1062, in 
>> > integrate(expression, v, a, b, algorithm, hold) 1060 if not integrator: 
>> > 1061 raise ValueError("Unknown algorithm: %s" % algorithm) -> 1062 return 
>> > integrator(expression, v, a, b) 1063 if a is None: 1064 return 
>> > indefinite_integral(expression, v, hold=hold) File 
>> > ~/TMP/sage-10.3/src/sage/symbolic/integration/external.py:207, in 
>> > fricas_integrator(expression, v, a, b, noPole) 204 else: 205 result = 
>> > e_fricas.integrate(seg) --> 207 result = result.sage() 209 if result == 
>> > "failed": 210 result = expression.integrate(v, a, b, hold=True) File 
>> > ~/TMP/sage-10.3/src/sage/interfaces/interface.py:1123, in 
>> > InterfaceElement.sage(self, *args, **kwds) 1104 def sage(self, *args, 
>> > **kwds): 1105 """ 1106 Attempt to return a Sage version of this object. 
>> > 1107 (...) 1121 [0 0] 1122 """ -> 1123 return self._sage_(*args, **kwds) 
>> > File ~/TMP/sage-10.3/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py:2067, in 
>> > FriCASElement._sage_(self) 2062 return 
>> > FriCASElement._sage_expression(P.get_InputForm(self._name)) 2064 if head 
>> > == "Expression" or head == "Pi": 2065 # we treat Expression Integer and 
>> > Expression Complex 2066 # Integer just the same -> 2067 return 
>> > FriCASElement._sage_expression(P.get_InputForm(self._name)) 2069 raise 
>> > NotImplementedError("the translation of the FriCAS object %s to sage is 
>> > not yet implemented" % (unparsed_InputForm())) File 
>> > ~/TMP/sage-10.3/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py:817, in 
>> > FriCAS.get_InputForm(self, var) 807 def get_InputForm(self, var): 808 """ 
>> > 809 Return the ``InputForm`` as a string. 810 (...) 815 816 """ --> 817 
>> > return self.get_string('sageprint((%s)::InputForm)' % str(var)) File 
>> > ~/TMP/sage-10.3/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py:755, in 
>> > FriCAS.get_string(self, var) 710 """ 711 Return the value of a FriCAS 
>> > string as a string, without checking 712 that it is a string. (...) 750 
>> > 751 """ 752 # strip removes leading and trailing whitespace, after that 
>> > 753 # we can assume that the first and the last character are 754 # double 
>> > quotes --> 755 return self.get(str(var)).replace("\n", "").strip()[1:-1] 
>> > File ~/TMP/sage-10.3/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py:707, in 
>> > FriCAS.get(self, var) 704 else: 705 return 
>> > "\n".join(line[FRICAS_MULTI_LINE_START:] for line in lines) --> 707 
>> > self._check_errors(var, output) File 
>> > ~/TMP/sage-10.3/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py:566, in 
>> > FriCAS._check_errors(self, line, output) 564 for old, new in replacements: 
>> > 565 output = output.replace(old, new) --> 566 raise RuntimeError("An error 
>> > occurred when FriCAS evaluated '%s':\n%s" % (line, output)) 568 # or even 
>> > an error 569 if FRICAS_ERROR_IN_LIBRARY_CODE in output: RuntimeError: An 
>> > error occurred when FriCAS evaluated 'sageprint((sage2)::InputForm)': 
>> > Compiling function sageprint with type InputForm -> String Heap exhausted 
>> > during allocation: 4128768 bytes available, 8305312 requested. Immobile 
>> > Object Counts Gen layout fdefn symbol code Boxed Cons Raw Code SmMix Mixed 
>> > LgRaw LgCode LgMix Waste% Alloc Trig Dirty GCs Mem-age 0 0 0 0 0 0 1065 40 
>> > 0 0 1974 694 0 1573 4.8 166688416 56166286 - 1 0.0000 1 0 0 0 0 0 26 56 0 
>> > 0 25 6061 0 0 0.9 200203744 32212254 6118 0 0.6334 2 0 0 0 0 0 22 61 0 0 
>> > 26 29327 0 0 0.2 962463824 382674606 29389 1 0.3641 3 0 4468 0 4682 53 
>> > 1475 140 1 14 53 54172 0 12 0.2 1829379008 2000000 54313 0 0.7255 4 0 0 0 
>> > 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 2000000 0 0 0.0000 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 
>> > 0.0 0 2000000 0 0 0.0000 6 780 25772 24483 26727 277 163 69 5 38 18 0 0 21 
>> > 3.2 18752384 2000000 11 0 0.0000 Tot 780 30240 24483 31409 330 2751 366 6 
>> > 52 2096 90254 0 1606 0.5 3177487376 [98.6% of 3221225472 max] GC control 
>> > variables: *GC-INHIBIT* = false *GC-PENDING* = false *STOP-FOR-GC-PENDING* 
>> > = false Collection trigger variables: dynamic_space_size = 3221225472 
>> > bytes_allocated = 3177487376 auto_gc_trigger = 3195814265 
>> > bytes_consed_between_gcs = 161061273 >> System error: Heap exhausted (no 
>> > more space for allocation). 4128768 bytes available, 8305312 requested. 
>> > PROCEED WITH CAUTION. 
>> > ------------------------------------------------------ This one also works 
>> > OK in Fricas 1.3.11 but gives exception in sagemath 10.3 same as above 
>> > integrate((x^2-1)/(x^2+1)/(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2)/(1+(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2))^(1/2),x,
>> >  algorithm="fricas") >sage SageMath version 10.3, Release Date: 2024-03-19 
>> > │ Using Python 3.11.1. Type "help()" for help. │ sage: var('x a b c 
>> > d') (x, a, b, c, d) sage: 
>> > integrate((x^2-1)/(x^2+1)/(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2)/(1+(1+(1+x)^(1/2))^(1/2))^(1/2),x,
>> >  algorithm="fricas") 
>> > ---------------------------------------------------------------------------
>> >  RuntimeError Traceback (most recent call last) Cell In[2], line 1 ----> 1 
>> > integrate((x**Integer(2)-Integer(1))/(x**Integer(2)+Integer(1))/(Integer(1)+(Integer(1)+x)**(Integer(1)/Integer(2)))**(Integer(1)/Integer(2))/(Integer(1)+(Integer(1)+(Integer(1)+x)**(Integer(1)/Integer(2)))**(Integer(1)/Integer(2)))**(Integer(1)/Integer(2)),x,
>> >  algorithm="fricas") File ~/TMP/sage-10.3/src/sage/misc/functional.py:788, 
>> > in integral(x, *args, **kwds) 655 """ 656 Return an indefinite or definite 
>> > integral of an object ``x``. 657 (...) 785 786 """ 787 if hasattr(x, 
>> > 'integral'): --> 788 return x.integral(*args, **kwds) 789 else: 790 from 
>> > sage.symbolic.ring import SR File 
>> > ~/TMP/sage-10.3/src/sage/symbolic/expression.pyx:13268, in 
>> > sage.symbolic.expression.Expression.integral() 13266 R = SR 13267 return 
>> > R(integral(f, v, a, b, **kwds)) > 13268 return integral(self, *args, 
>> > **kwds) 13269 13270 integrate = integral File 
>> > ~/TMP/sage-10.3/src/sage/symbolic/integration/integral.py:1062, in 
>> > integrate(expression, v, a, b, algorithm, hold) 1060 if not integrator: 
>> > 1061 raise ValueError("Unknown algorithm: %s" % algorithm) -> 1062 return 
>> > integrator(expression, v, a, b) 1063 if a is None: 1064 return 
>> > indefinite_integral(expression, v, hold=hold) File 
>> > ~/TMP/sage-10.3/src/sage/symbolic/integration/external.py:207, in 
>> > fricas_integrator(expression, v, a, b, noPole) 204 else: 205 result = 
>> > e_fricas.integrate(seg) --> 207 result = result.sage() 209 if result == 
>> > "failed": 210 result = expression.integrate(v, a, b, hold=True) File 
>> > ~/TMP/sage-10.3/src/sage/interfaces/interface.py:1123, in 
>> > InterfaceElement.sage(self, *args, **kwds) 1104 def sage(self, *args, 
>> > **kwds): 1105 """ 1106 Attempt to return a Sage version of this object. 
>> > 1107 (...) 1121 [0 0] 1122 """ -> 1123 return self._sage_(*args, **kwds) 
>> > File ~/TMP/sage-10.3/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py:2067, in 
>> > FriCASElement._sage_(self) 2062 return 
>> > FriCASElement._sage_expression(P.get_InputForm(self._name)) 2064 if head 
>> > == "Expression" or head == "Pi": 2065 # we treat Expression Integer and 
>> > Expression Complex 2066 # Integer just the same -> 2067 return 
>> > FriCASElement._sage_expression(P.get_InputForm(self._name)) 2069 raise 
>> > NotImplementedError("the translation of the FriCAS object %s to sage is 
>> > not yet implemented" % (unparsed_InputForm())) File 
>> > ~/TMP/sage-10.3/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py:817, in 
>> > FriCAS.get_InputForm(self, var) 807 def get_InputForm(self, var): 808 """ 
>> > 809 Return the ``InputForm`` as a string. 810 (...) 815 816 """ --> 817 
>> > return self.get_string('sageprint((%s)::InputForm)' % str(var)) File 
>> > ~/TMP/sage-10.3/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py:755, in 
>> > FriCAS.get_string(self, var) 710 """ 711 Return the value of a FriCAS 
>> > string as a string, without checking 712 that it is a string. (...) 750 
>> > 751 """ 752 # strip removes leading and trailing whitespace, after that 
>> > 753 # we can assume that the first and the last character are 754 # double 
>> > quotes --> 755 return self.get(str(var)).replace("\n", "").strip()[1:-1] 
>> > File ~/TMP/sage-10.3/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py:707, in 
>> > FriCAS.get(self, var) 704 else: 705 return 
>> > "\n".join(line[FRICAS_MULTI_LINE_START:] for line in lines) --> 707 
>> > self._check_errors(var, output) File 
>> > ~/TMP/sage-10.3/src/sage/interfaces/fricas.py:566, in 
>> > FriCAS._check_errors(self, line, output) 564 for old, new in replacements: 
>> > 565 output = output.replace(old, new) --> 566 raise RuntimeError("An error 
>> > occurred when FriCAS evaluated '%s':\n%s" % (line, output)) 568 # or even 
>> > an error 569 if FRICAS_ERROR_IN_LIBRARY_CODE in output: RuntimeError: An 
>> > error occurred when FriCAS evaluated 'sageprint((sage2)::InputForm)': 
>> > Compiling function sageprint with type InputForm -> String Heap exhausted 
>> > during allocation: 129597440 bytes available, 132910384 requested. 
>> > Immobile Object Counts Gen layout fdefn symbol code Boxed Cons Raw Code 
>> > SmMix Mixed LgRaw LgCode LgMix Waste% Alloc Trig Dirty GCs Mem-age 0 0 0 0 
>> > 0 0 4 19 0 0 3 3693 0 8114 0.2 387137408 153529214 - 1 0.0000 1 0 0 0 0 0 
>> > 8 37 0 0 9 1629 0 0 1.0 54596416 32212254 1667 0 0.0000 2 0 0 0 0 0 7 1 0 
>> > 0 3 9637 0 0 0.1 315796080 348008334 9639 1 0.0000 3 0 4468 0 4682 53 1706 
>> > 110 1 14 12 44293 0 12 0.1 1512494112 695462510 44404 1 0.4385 4 0 0 0 0 0 
>> > 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 2000000 0 0 0.0000 5 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0.0 0 
>> > 2000000 0 0 0.0000 6 780 25772 24483 26727 277 163 69 5 38 18 0 0 21 3.2 
>> > 18752384 2000000 11 0 0.0000 Tot 780 30240 24483 31409 330 1888 236 6 52 
>> > 45 59252 0 8147 0.2 2288776400 [71.1% of 3221225472 max] GC control 
>> > variables: *GC-INHIBIT* = false *GC-PENDING* = true *STOP-FOR-GC-PENDING* 
>> > = false Collection trigger variables: dynamic_space_size = 3221225472 
>> > bytes_allocated = 2288776400 auto_gc_trigger = 2184017225 
>> > bytes_consed_between_gcs = 161061273 >> System error: Heap exhausted (no 
>> > more space for allocation). 129597440 bytes available, 132910384 
>> > requested. PROCEED WITH CAUTION. I have not tried all the rest. They all 
>> > look like same problem. To compare, this is database of 1.3.10 testing 
>> > ================================================ #total number of 
>> > integrals sqlite> select count(*) from main; 106812 #total failed number 
>> > of integrals sqlite> select count(*) from main where fricas_pass=0 or 
>> > fricas_pass=-1 or fricas_pass=-2; 24339 #total normal failed sqlite> 
>> > select count(*) from main where fricas_pass=0; 17523 #number failed due to 
>> > timeout sqlite> select count(*) from main where fricas_pass=-1; 4478 
>> > #number failed due to exception sqlite> select count(*) from main where 
>> > fricas_pass=-2; 2338 #number passed sqlite> select count(*) from main 
>> > where fricas_pass=1; 82473
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