It was a joke of course.

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Greg

Le dim. 27 août 2023, 20:10, Tim Daly <[email protected]> a écrit :

> -- Order matters
>
> It does.
>
> Axiom uses a day/date/time format specifically to show order.
> My startup header shows the month of release and when
> this running code was built from that release:
>
>    Version: Axiom (May 2016)
>    Timestamp: Friday February 8, 2019 at 05:35:41
>
> The git hash is embedded to specifically identify the related code.
> In the PDF generated from literate source you'll see the date and hash.
> For example, from the Axiom Wikipedia page PDF for the Jenks book:
>
> <https://github.com/daly/PDFS/commits?author=daly>
> 20210107 7beff147070c2fd433caddc60932eecd30ca28c3
> <https://github.com/daly/PDFS/commit/40dbd52c0831377c8784eedf5b38714e37bb019a>
>
> At this point you have all useful, exact information.
>
> For some odd reason, version coding generates a lot of heat.
> I really didn't intend to restart that debate.
>
>
> On Sun, Aug 27, 2023 at 2:41 AM Grégory Vanuxem <[email protected]>
> wrote:
>
>> Order matters.
>>
>> Try to avoid :https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mathematical_induction
>>
>> Le mar. 22 août 2023 à 17:58, Tim Daly <[email protected]> a écrit :
>> >
>> > Version numbering is a hotly debated issue no-one can agree on.
>> >
>> > To get a reliable, repeatable "version" that also allows debugging
>> > use git's sha1 hash.
>> >
>> > On Tuesday, August 22, 2023 at 2:04:27 AM UTC-4 [email protected]
>> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> Hello, Ralf, Waldek, *,
>> >>
>> >> Thanks Ralf for supporting this proposal.
>> >>
>> >> I'm used to run different FriCAS versions at the same time and since I
>> >> plan to support this in a FriCAS personal plugin for VSCode (not
>> >> published yet), I need version informations to populate my
>> >> 'FriCASExecutable' computational "structure". For now 'fricas
>> >> --version' is inconsistent to me. But this is usual apparently even
>> >> with Common Lisp implementations. For example, 'gcl --version' gives:
>> >>
>> >> $gcl --version
>> >> GCL 2.6.14 ...
>> >>
>> >> whereas in GCL
>> >> >(lisp-implementation-type)
>> >> "GNU Common Lisp (GCL)"
>> >>
>> >> Clozure CL is more consistent from my point of view:
>> >> └─$ /home/greg/.roswell/impls/x86-64/linux/ccl-bin/1.12.2/lx86cl64
>> --version
>> >> Clozure Common Lisp Version 1.12.2 (v1.12.2) LinuxX8664
>> >>
>> >> and in it:
>> >> CCL is free software. It is distributed under the terms of the Apache
>> >> Licence, Version 2.0.
>> >> ? (lisp-implementation-type)
>> >> "Clozure Common Lisp"
>> >> ?
>> >>
>> >> After, that is just a matter of opinion I guess.
>> >> By the way, if there is some interest I filed a pull request,
>> >> https://github.com/fricas/fricas/pull/134
>> >>
>> >> The original code is in
>> https://github.com/gvanuxem/fricas/tree/fricas-version
>> >> (the fricas-version branch) for an eventual 'diff'. I will keep one
>> >> since I will delete this branch in the near future.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> __
>> >> Greg
>> >>
>> >> Le lun. 21 août 2023 à 08:53, Ralf Hemmecke <[email protected]> a
>> écrit :
>> >> >
>> >> > >> What about putting the FriCAS version on the first line whether
>> or not
>> >> > >> X is supported?
>> >> > >
>> >> > > Version information is printed by FriCASsys. The messages you see
>> >> > > are warnings from fricas script. If they appear at all they will
>> >> > > appear before startup of FriCASsys.
>> >> >
>> >> > Would it be an option to send the output of the lines
>> >> >
>> >> > ################
>> >> > if [ ! -f $FRICAS/lib/viewman ] ; then
>> >> > echo "viewman not present, disabling graphics"
>> >> > otheropts="-nogr"
>> >> > fi
>> >> >
>> >> > if [ ! -f $FRICAS/bin/hypertex ]; then
>> >> > echo "hypertex not present, disabling"
>> >> > otheropts="$otheropts -noht"
>> >> > fi
>> >> > ################
>> >> >
>> >> > to stdout?
>> >> >
>> >> > Otherwise I agree with Greg that "fricas --version" should give the
>> >> > version information in the first two lines.
>> >> >
>> >> > Ralf
>> >> >
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