Le jeu. 29 juin 2023, 02:00, Waldek Hebisch <[email protected]> a écrit :
> On Wed, Jun 28, 2023 at 02:56:43PM +0200, Grégory Vanuxem wrote: > > - > > First the install.rst file mentioned in another thread > > (https://www.math.uni.wroc.pl/~hebisch/fricas/install.rst) > > is totally source (Git) oriented. It is more a build and install file > > rather than an install file. > > Yes, that is the intent: install.rst is included as part of source > distribution. Installation from binary distribution is covered > by separate file INSTALL-bin.txt, available at: > > http://fricas.sourceforge.net/doc/INSTALL-bin.txt Ok, I better understand. > > > > I think the user should be able to know where to find the binary files > and > > how to install it. It belongs to an install file to me. > > > > (New) user should be able to quickly try FriCAS if he just wants to test > it > > for example. > > I did that a lot for computer software when I was young , now I do that > for > > iOS or Android > > applications. Only commentaries do not really help me intrinsically. > > And often I quickly delete the application if it does not fit my needs. > > > > So how about adding to the FriCAS web site a "Getting Started" like page? > > Like this one for example: https://www.sbcl.org/getting.html > > >From my point of view, the Internet is highly time consuming, > > moreover now with the RGPD and cookies related reglementations > > (this is not related here), so helping stuff is always appreciated. > > > > - > > What about updating the FriCAS website which mention in > > https://fricas.github.io/download.html FriCAS (1.3.6) > > Yes, that should be updated. For each release I update Sourceforge > pages. This page was created by Ralf and I expected him to update it. > I could try to help if necessary. For reorganization for example. My English is not as good as I would like. > Personal though again, when I download a binary or a source tarball > > I sometimes forget to create a dedicated directory in my Tmp directory > > and I always fear when I unpack the tarball this creates several > directories > > like bin/ doc/ share/ lib/ etc. When this happens I fulminate. For the > > FriCAS binaries > > it is not really a problem since only a usr/ directory is created and its > > local/ tree in it. > > I can know that since this is explained in Notes-1.3.8.txt in the > > SourceForge download page though. See below about this. > > > > Personally I prefer when I unpack a tarball, say > > fricas-1.3.8-amd64.tar.bz2, to > > obtain a directory named fricas-1.3.8-amd64 with the usr/ directory in > it. > > That way I can, if > > necessary, just read/edit a file for example. See below about this. > > > > - > > The binary release tarball is just a usr/ directory, what about adding a > > simple > > README file and an install.sh file like this one for example: > > https://github.com/sbcl/sbcl/blob/master/install.sh > > It's a SBCL example again but there are other examples on the Internet. > > The README file can quickly explain the use of the install.sh file. > > That would allow users to have different options to install FriCAS. > > The end user may want to install FriCAS in the $HOME/.local directory > > as it's usual now. > > Well, extra files would defeat possibity of unpacking from the > filesystem root (for install to /usr/local). Note that unpacking > binary tarbal from filesystem root gives the same layout as 'install' > target from source distribution. > Yes, I noticed that. After, it's a matter of taste. Personally, I prefer to do this by hand. If somebody wants different layout, that can be done "by hand" > using few commands (this is explaned in INSTALL-bin.txt). > In principle this can be easily automated. > That could be a good thing I think. I will look at this, when time permits since it's not a zero day stuff :) > About the download page from the FriCAS website at SourceForge, there is > > a Notes-1.3.8.txt that explains the purpose of each file available for > > download > > and gives a link to http://fricas.sourceforge.net/doc/INSTALL-bin.txt > which > > explains > > the installation instruction for the binary tarball. > > But the Notes-1.3.8.txt from the download page is not readable as is. > > Personally I had to download it and open it in a file manager. > > Well, that is Sourceforge misfeature. We probably should > add link to INSTALL-bin.txt on Sourceforge download page. > On Github link to INSTALL-bin.txt appears on release page. > I agree. That would be handy to have on the two sites browser read access to these two files (INSTALL-bin.txt and Notes-1.3.x.txt). __ Greg > So, again, I think, > > a Getting started guide makes sense to quickly give minimal informations. > > The INSTALL-bin.txt is readable with the browser though. > > > > - > > What about uniformizing the FriCAS web pages from sourceforge.net and > from > > fricas.github.io <https://fricas.github.io/download.html> . The latter > > comes from Wikipedia, the former from my search engine. > > Well, since Github works differently than Sourceforge there are some > unavoidable differences. In particular, one of goals of download > page that I wrote for Sourceforge was to skip various junk and > intermediate pages and give direct links to download files > on Sourceforge. Naturally, Github page should link to files > on Github. > > -- > Waldek Hebisch > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "FriCAS - computer algebra system" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to [email protected]. > To view this discussion on the web visit > https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/fricas-devel/ZJzJgLUija/r8xQb%40fricas.math.uni.wroc.pl > . > -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "FriCAS - computer algebra system" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to [email protected]. To view this discussion on the web visit https://groups.google.com/d/msgid/fricas-devel/CAHnU2daLzKW3kf2c14kdmtJVRSJzJ-80LWWjp%2BsVqdN2d%3DnckA%40mail.gmail.com.
