On Sun, May 02, 2021 at 01:13:18PM +0200, Gr??gory Vanuxem wrote:
> Hi here, Hi Waldek,
> 
> Waldek, what do you think of allowing, via an user option in command
> line arguments
> say, '--no-banner', to suppress the banner at startup to better
> interface FriCAS to different frontends?

Could be done, simply up to now nobody bothered to implement this.

> This could be done for example via the fricas script which sends to FRICASs=
> ys
> the '--no-banner' parameter and can be extracted in fricas-init routine.
> With SBCL this is available in the sb-ext:*posix-argv* variable, other
> Common Lisp implementations
> are also able to access command line arguments.

There are some complications, see 'sman.c' how '-eval' is handled.

> For what I have found the essential pieces of code to print this
> banner are in fricas-init (util.lisp)
> and spadStartUpMsgs (msgdb.boot).

Yes.

> I can code a proof of concept piece
> of code for review if necessary.
> 
> Regards
> __
> Greg
> 
> Le ven. 30 avr. 2021 =C3=A0 20:35, Gr=C3=A9gory Vanuxem <[email protected]=
> m> a =C3=A9crit :
> >
> >
> >
> > Le ven. 30 avr. 2021 =C3=A0 18:51, Ralf Hemmecke <[email protected]> a =
> =C3=A9crit :
> >>
> >> > https://github.com/gvanuxem/fricas-vscode
> >>
> >> Oh... it seems that you are competing with Peter Broadbery's Intellij
> >> plugin.
> >
> >
> >
> > We had little discussions with each other and his work is amazing. But th=
> ere is a notable distinction. Intellij is an IDE with projects in mind wher=
> eas VS Code is a code *editor*. I started some time ago with Atom but Atom =
> (like Bill Page experimented I think) is extremely slow to start and not as=
>  portable as I would like. Personally I want, in a terminal for example, 'c=
> ode myfile.thing' an instant startup. VS Code, not as Vim or Emacs of cours=
> e, is fast. This is what I like. And moreover a lot of visual things can be=
>  done. It's MIT licensed and on GitHub so that's attracted me.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> https://github.com/pbroadbery/aldor-idea-plugin/releases/tag/release-1.3
> >>
> >> I appreciate very much that more and more stuff appears that is
> >> connected to FriCAS.
> >>
> >> As for the banner. For the jfricas interface, is simply don't care.
> >> There a fricas is started in the background and connected to jfricas.
> >> The input string is sent to fricas and fricas returns output that is
> >> fenced by
> >>
> >> --BEG:FORMAT:FormatMathJax:NN
> >> ...
> >> --END:FORMAT:FormatMathJax:NN
> >>
> >> https://github.com/fricas/fricas/blob/master/src/algebra/fmtjfricas.spad=
> #L75
> >>
> >> So the only thing I have to parse is something inside these fences.
> >> The banner is simply ignored.
> >>
> >> No idea whether this may help you.
> >
> >
> > I dislike, actually, having the banner each time I execute several operat=
> ions (snippet for example in an input file).
> > I would prefer of course a REPL in VS Code but for now...
> >
> > But that always helps, and in fact mathematical notation Notebook (a litt=
> le of Jupyter apparently...) begins to be implemented:
> > https://code.visualstudio.com/updates/v1_55
> > (search 'Preview features')
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> In fact, when output for the FriCAS book is generated it simply creates
> >> a .spool file with appropriately set stuff before and after the actual
> >> output of the commands, so that it becomes easy to separate the relevant
> >> output from garbage.
> >
> >
> > I think, for now, with my actual goals, the simpler way is to remove the =
> banner.
> >
> > Greg
> >
> >>
> >>
> >> Ralf
> >>
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