There's this:
https://cabq.maps.arcgis.com/apps/dashboards/c1f11078950240daba6002f4a4eadb1e

And I dropped a few street view pins around there and didn't see what I would 
stereotypically think of as slums. Which parts are you thinking about?

It's interesting that Kirtland seems to be regarded as one of the better 
integrated of the peri-urban bases. Of course, that could be mostly military 
and politician propaganda. And it's easy to integrate with the officials and 
higher classes of residents without engaging the lower classes. So that's all 
with a grain of salt. But my understanding of Harp's message is more about the 
types of people in JSOC and DF ... radical by pretty much any classification 
system you use (radically fit, radical attitudes, radical skills, etc). Add to 
their radicality that they're inside a deep black budget and you're bound to 
get extensive, opaque side effects.

Proximity to Sandia guarantees a significant black budget, I guess. But a) the 
air force has more stringent rules than the army, at least based on my decades 
obsolete understanding. And b) the army's mission (set) is much larger than the 
air force's (especially now that we have the space force). So my guess is that 
even if there's some bleed over into the community from black ops at Kirtland, 
it's going to be WAY less intense than Fort Bragg.

On 8/26/25 9:13 AM, cody dooderson wrote:
Glen;

I am reading the Fort Bragg Cartel book. It is more than a little bit scary. Particularly 
scary is the admission that the surgical teams in Afghanistan didn't have enough Arabic 
translators and instead used "nodal" targeting.  I assume it means they killed 
the most recent 5 contacts in a targets phone, and then did the same to their contacts, 
and so on, until they ran out of contacts. In computer terms, I would describe it as a 
depth first search where every node is gruesomely killed. It may start as a cyclic graph 
but quickly becomes less cyclic.

It also makes me wonder if Albuquerque doesn't share some of the problems as 
Fort Bragg(or whatever it is called now). Ever since moving to Albuquerque, I 
wondered why the neighborhoods immediately around the air force base are some 
of the most desperate slums in the city. It seems like they should reflect the 
wealth that is inside of the base, but those areas have some of the worst 
problems.

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On Mon, Aug 25, 2025 at 11:06 AM Steve Smith <[email protected] 
<mailto:[email protected]>> wrote:

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    Pieter Steenekamp wrote:

    5. Something else I see (the technology factor)
    There’s one more thread that seems worth adding. Modern technology makes 
war both harder and less rewarding in some cases:

    Drones and cheap precision weapons allow even small countries to inflict 
significant damage on larger powers.

    Economic sanctions, while imperfect, can be deployed faster and with more 
coordination than in the past.

    Supply chains are global, which means that aggressors risk cutting 
themselves off from the very technologies and markets they depend on.

    In other words, the tools of modern globalization — finance, trade, tech — 
double as tools of deterrence. You don’t need a world government to stop wars; 
you just need a world that is so interconnected that aggressors quickly pay 
unbearable costs.


    I don't remember (either) exactly where I read it or what was the author's 
opinion and what is mine... I think it was Shirer's Berlin Diary

    however:

             the salient point made was that both WWI and WWII were executed somewhat 
because the "normal" balance of power is in favor of defensive technology... 
but that at every technological leap forward, there is a brief period where the favor 
flips so it becomes acutely advantageous to prosecute an invasion for a short while.   
Germany's Wermacht, not only in terms of hard technology (planes, tanks, bombs) but also 
soft (tactics) gave them a temporary advantage as an aggressor.

        On the other hand, Shirer's accounts also lead me to look into the 
asymmetry of industrial and human input to WWII and see how the Allies 
ultimately overwhelmed the Axis with industrial might.   I forget how big the 
British Empire was at the time... between Canada and Australia and beyond, they 
were *much* more than a tiny island nation... and of course their biggest 
(former) colony of all was the US.   I think i read that the amount of hardware 
we through at Germany (and Italy and Japan) was ultimately about 10x that 
mounted by them..

    Ukraine's acutely effective defense reflects (IMO) the combination of a strong tech-indusrial 
base and aesthetic, a strong "homeland defense" motivation and the emergence of new modes 
of defensive warfare (Drone range for example, being naturally asymmetric in favor of defensive 
use.   The trick they pulled "smuggling" a host of them deep into Russian territory 
notwithstanding.

    Just to harp on one of my hobby-horses, I suspect the large scale conflicts 
of humanity amongst ourselves to be a reflection of the sheer forces between 
the goals of the individual/family/community and larger scales like 
city/nation-states, multi-national corps, global-religions, etc.   A natural 
tension between scales.

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