glen:* "Yep. If we take the analogy between externalized memory and
externalized attention seriously, it seems clear we've been doing this for ...
what? ... decades already." *
I would, (have in my doctoral dissertation) argue that we, as a species, have
been doing this since we emerged as a distinct species. [actually, even
earlier] Accelerating in a near exponential fashion as language and culture
arose.
The mechanism is a simple feedback loop: the environment "prompts' actions—many
of which alter the environment—increasing the likelihood of taking the same
actions in the future.
At a cognitive level, using Hopfield's landscape metaphor of a neural network,
simply add an additional factor adjusting the weights that shape the landscape:
"Consistency" (combination of frequency and consistency) of inputs that result
from actions that altered the context from which those inputs arose.
Most life, to greater or lesser extents, do the same thing. This is why, IMO,
that species do not evolve; only species in context do.
davew
On Thu, Aug 14, 2025, at 9:46 AM, glen wrote:
> Yep. If we take the analogy between externalized memory and
> externalized attention seriously, it seems clear we've been doing this
> for ... what? ... decades already. Each algorithm [1] makes choices for
> us [2]. The value systems behind GOFAI seem quaint these days. But it's
> the same stuff. Each time I `git commit`, I select/filter/canalize what
> I'll do the next time I land near that region of the landscape ... I
> guess it's part of the reason I hate working in the REPL. But
> particularly with Claude (and maybe Kimi K2), I have something like a
> meta-REPL where I can zoom out a bit ... see the coarser canal
> structure laid over the finer ones, up and down the granularity scale.
>
> But it'll never replace my Socratic homunculous' need to feel the sand
> in her toes ... conversational mixed martial arts, that subtle change
> in someone's facial muscles when you tell a joke at layer 3 that's a
> non sequitur at layers 0-2. [sigh]
>
> [1] ... writ large from diagnostic flowcharts in old textbooks to
> artifacts like computational proofs to capitalist exploitation like the
> youtube "algorithm" ...
>
> [2] Also writ large, where "us" includes corporations and nations as
> well as individuals and families.
>
> On 8/13/25 10:35 AM, Jon Zingale wrote:
>> ```
>> "Socrates, he who does not write"
>> —Nietzche
>> ```
>> —Derrida
>> of Grammatology
>
>> On 8/13/25 7:22 AM, glen wrote:
>>>
>>> Attention Machines and Future Politics
>>> https://jacmullen.substack.com/p/attention-machines-and-future-politics
>
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