Aaah . Fond memories, Euler strikes again. e^(iπ) = -1 is a special case, typically for phase inverted rotating signals like in resonant systems or reflective waves.
On Tue, Jul 1, 2025 at 11:14 PM Pieter Steenekamp < [email protected]> wrote: > This is really beautiful to me. > > I’m not an expert in the theory behind why e^(iπ) = -1, but as an > engineer, I’ve come across it many times. > > I first worked with it on a project early in my career. I modeled a > 3-phase unbalanced AC system to optimally control a metals melting arc > furnace in real time. The work was very successful, and even after many > years, I still feel proud of it. > The changing currents and voltages, as the furnace loads shifted, depended > on complex numbers — and e^(iπ) = -1 is just a special case of that kind of > math. > > Later, I developed a general model predictive control (MPC) software > package. That too was based on the same kind of complex number math — > again, where e^(iπ) = -1 is a special case. > > So even though I don’t fully understand the deep math, the ideas around > e^(iθ) bring back fond memories. > > But that was a previous life. These days, I’m working in AI — and loving > it just as much! > > On Tue, 1 Jul 2025 at 00:20, Frank Wimberly <[email protected]> wrote: > >> As for teachers who barely understood.what they were teaching... >> >> At Carnegie Mellon the guy who usually taught digital signal processing >> was on sabbatical, the guy who taught it when the first guy wasn't >> available was just made director of the Robotics Institute. I had >> mentioned a desire to teach so they decided I should do it. I said "but I >> never took that course." The RI guy said, "You'll do fine. It's just >> math." The course was for about 40 MS and a few PhD students in EE. The >> text was by Oppenheim and Schafer. As I read it I wondered where the >> theorems and proofs were. Long story short, with help from a control >> throry professor who was available to answer my questions it went OK. I'm >> sure most of the students knew I was a beginner. On the student >> evaluations I got 3.2 out of 4. >> >> --- >> Frank C. Wimberly >> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >> >> 505 670-9918 >> Santa Fe, NM >> >> On Mon, Jun 30, 2025, 3:07 PM glen <[email protected]> wrote: >> >>> IDK. I can't help but wonder if a walk through a reasoning process like >>> this would have helped me at 17 or so, fresh off geometry, trig, algebra, >>> etc and headed into calculus. Complex numbers were largely opaque, despite >>> some exposure. I don't think they clarified until college. Add in the >>> ability to raise the temperature parameter, iterate a couple times, and it >>> may well have been helpful ... more so than my "teachers" who barely >>> understood what they were teaching and my calculus teacher who seemed to >>> believe she could telepathically push things into my head. >>> >>> But I *definitely* think a few breaks in the reasoning to play with the >>> dog or argue about whether pineapple or anchovies belong on pizza would >>> have helped me pay attention longer. >8^D >>> >>> On 6/30/25 11:25 AM, Frank Wimberly wrote: >>> > Blah, blah, blah. He should have stopped at e^(i pi) + 1 =0 >>> >>> On 6/30/25 11:25 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote: >>> > So conscientious! There was nothing about being hungry or wanting to >>> play with the dog. >>> >>> On 6/30/25 1:05 PM, Santafe wrote: >>> > wow. Disingenuous performative much? Who programs these things? >>> That level of smarm is malicious in and of itself. Having just watched the >>> thing on Alex Karp and who is running “things” these days. >>> > >>> >> On Jul 1, 2025, at 3:02, glen <[email protected]> wrote: >>> >> >>> >> Inference was running slowly. So I decided to see if the GPU was >>> actually working. It wasn't. So I had to shut everything down and restart >>> the container. Then to test, I thought I'd ask Qwen3 a simple reasoning >>> question. The attached is the result. >>> >> >>> >> OMG. Please think more quietly. 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