Yes, the EC is schematic. The markings on the edge are tightly coupled. But the contents of the 
panel vary widely. And yes if you change the miter saw example to "cut to complementary 
angles" regardless of whether "90°" = 90°, then that would be a scheme as well. The 
complementarity is tight. The actual angle(s) are allowed to vary.

Complicatedness is contrasted with parsimonious. Both can be monist in the 
sense that they can be the One True Model. Biologists come in this package. 
They can realize that biology is super complicated, but still believe there's a 
One True (very complicated) way of understanding biology.

By contrast things like the cosmic underdetermination theorem suggest that 
there's no way to well-model or get One True perspective of the universe. 
Pluralism is required. The contrast isn't monism vs. dualism. It's monism vs. 
pluralism. Dualism has much the same problem monism has except rather than 
being prejudiced to 1 thing (method, model, understanding, etc.), you're 
prejudiced to 2 things.

And finally, yes, I think you're at least a methodological pluralist already.

On 1/31/25 2:33 PM, steve smith wrote:

On 1/31/25 1:20 PM, glen wrote:
So even though you understand my basic point of [ab]use and the tolerance of 
error or tolerance of ambiguity, I'm not hearing any recognition of schematic 
systems in your responses. It's fine, of course. It would be reasonable to take 
the absence of my language in your responses as an implicit rejection of the 
game I'm trying to define. In fact, I kinda hope that's the case because I 
enjoy that kind of subtle game play. But just in case it's not ...

The in general, observation bias, and in specific, schematic bias, I'm pointing to cf. multiverse analysis (pluralism) versus either parsimony or complicatedness (monism) won't be understood without understanding what it means to be schematic in one's "calibration". In perhaps obsolete terminology, it amounts to requirements analysis with predicates like "must have" versus "nice to have" versus "don't care", etc.

The easy answer is that I'm probably just entirely over my head in this 
conversation.

I was focused (perhaps) mostly on your original opening line about parsimony being a red herring.  If I 
doubled down on the miter saw calibrationexample, it was because I thought you were willfully 
misunderstanding or ignoring the specifics of the example.   If I can recast it into "the 
schematic" (scare quotes to acknowledge I may be misunderstanding the concept in some fundamental way) 
then the issue might be to reframe the problem from "cutting at a specific angle" to "cutting 
two pieces at complementary angles which sum to the orthogonal to support a specific type of joinery within a 
specific range of constructions where orthogonality has specific value"?

Attempting to understand you more better, I will focus here on what you call the 
"schematic".  If I understand you correctly, my EC registration example *was* schematic?  
I'm lost when you equate (relate?) "complicatedness" to monism?  In this case monism as a 
single unified theory with plurality being it's complement or opposite.  I am used to this list 
arguing monism vs dualism (without my own dog in the fight) so probably didn't appreciate the 
nuance there.   In fact I think my lack of a dog in the monist/dualist fight is that (I think) I'm 
pretty pluralist at my core.   But maybe my words or behaviour say otherwise.



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