I was disappointed that LANL didn’t invest in large scale solar. They just get 
power from the county and have a couple of dedicated coal-powered turbines. It 
is the Department of Energy for goodness’s sake, they should be a leader on it. 
They even have a hillside there where they could do pumped hydro. 

My impression is that LANL on the production side is still reluctant to adopt 
AI. Anyone that has worked there could probably guess why, but I won’t further 
comment! [lol] On the Office of Science funding side, I think it is more 
progressive. 

In any case, national lab HPC is pretty much quaint now compared to the AI 
datacenters. 

https://semianalysis.com/2024/09/04/multi-datacenter-training-openais/ <_blank> 

From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of steve smith 
<sasm...@swcp.com>
Date: Friday, January 31, 2025 at 3:44 PM
To: friam@redfish.com <friam@redfish.com>
Subject: [FRIAM] OpenAI goes to LANL 

https://www.lanl.gov/media/news/0130-open-ai 
<https://www.lanl.gov/media/news/0130-open-ai> 
Los Alamos National Laboratory has entered a partnership with OpenAI to install 
its latest o-series models — capable of expert reasoning for a broad span of 
complex scientific problems — on the Lab’s Venado 
<https://www.lanl.gov/media/news/0415-venado> supercomputer, which uses NVIDIA 
GH200 Grace Hopper Superchips, to conduct national security research. 


I've been out of the loop (mostly) at LANL going on 15 years so few if any of 
the players I knew when I was in HPC will still be players now. 
It wasn't that long ago (May 24) the Musk hisself "flew in" (?) to Los Alamos 
to chat up his impending Collossus cluster in TN? 


https://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/a-lot-of-science-elon-musk-takes-private-tour-of-los-alamos-national-laboratory/article_d0de8bde-1940-11ef-b318-e7aeab106940.html
<https://www.santafenewmexican.com/news/local_news/a-lot-of-science-elon-musk-takes-private-tour-of-los-alamos-national-laboratory/article_d0de8bde-1940-11ef-b318-e7aeab106940.html>


I understand that the cooling/facility requirements for HPC these days is 
roughly double that of the actual power consumption of the gear itself for 
about 2.5MW for Venado (not sure how many other signifcant clusters/machines 
are operating right now). 
In my college days (northern AZ) they were just decomissioning the steam plant 
heat that not only heated all the buildings but was transmitted in tunnels 
under the sidewalks with limited insulation, leading many sidewalks around 
campus to be ice and snow free most of the time. Maybe LANL (and LA proper?) 
could just use the street/sidewalk system as a vascular cooling system? 
in D (Decision Application) Division, there were a few (pretty lamely 
conceived) ideas around using ML to build compressed models to use in place of 
the real (often compute intensive) simulation models... the biggest problem was 
that the promoters understood even less than I do about the roughness of such 
landscapes (nonlinear models exhibiting variations on power-law scaling of 
structure). 


My intuition suggests that thoughtful application of LLMs and other transformer 
models in these contexts *might* well provide significant leverage but at the 
same time, I expect the projects to actually flagship for this effort to be 
grandstanders, not meat and potatoes. 




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