I think this last point: 

> On Dec 11, 2024, at 13:35, glen <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> The important cut point, here, isn't whether the impact is registered by any 
> one person's mind or in their daily behavior. The cut points are systemic. 
> Another eg: As a citizen of WA, I need not care about abortion rights in 
> Alabama. I will likely not register the plights of those women. My 
> intentional or accidental blinders and filter bubbles will protect me. But 
> those (and other) plights will bleed through that disjointness and affect 
> every aspect of every US citizen's life, whether they register it or not.
> 

is very close to the one Wendy Brown argues in her Weber-esque take on nihilism:
https://www.hup.harvard.edu/books/9780674279384

The standard gloss would categorize nihilism as a frame of mind in the 
individual.  Brown wants to use the word to refer to a condition of living in 
the society, which can still have a definite etiology for which she is willing 
to put forward a draft, but which then induces responses and states of mind in 
lots of people, of diverse kinds.

Not to mean that Glen’s point above was directed toward nihilism per se.  
Rather, that there are many things we are used to regarding as being “about” 
states of mind in individual people; but in an alternative take, one could say 
that related ideas are “about” conditions of living in the society, which still 
have polarity even though there will be idiosyncratic responses to it by people 
caught in it.

Eric


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