My condodolences :-( Did he bring his drum to one of the FRIAM meetings? I have 
read he was an avid drummer like Richard Feynman himself or even better.There 
were so many interesting people in this list, like Doug Roberts for instance, 
who used to have a parrot farm address, but as a remote participant I do not 
know if he really had a parrot farm or if it was just as a name for his 
company. I remember that one of you had a real parrot on his shoulder in one of 
the Zoom meetings, but I don't remember who :-/I wonder if we have a volunteer 
who would like to write down a few words about this group and its members, 
including Carl and Doug? Maybe Tom as a journalist? If everybody contributes a 
few sentences about Carl and Doug we have already a whole page about each of 
them. If we have one day enough content we can (self-) publish it as a book. 
Even if nobody of us finds out anything special or how the world works it would 
be a good memory.Jochen
-------- Original message --------From: steve smith <sasm...@swcp.com> Date: 
9/9/24  4:44 AM  (GMT+01:00) To: friam@redfish.com Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Passing 
of Carl Tollander 
    Carl was the one I was most likely to sit with and talk
      one-on-one during WedTech luncheons when we both used to attend
      (decade or more ago?) semi-regularly.   I also acutely remember
      when he brought the Taiko Drum group (just forming) to SFx circa
      2008?  It was quite a scene and the old railcar garage had great
      acoustics for them as I remember!
    
    We haven't celebrated too many losses in the FriAM constituency
      have we?  
    
    I remember when someone (Kevin Kelly) made the point on The WELL
      (whole earth lectronic link, circa 1990) that a virtual
      "community" wasn't a proper community until it experienced at
      least one wedding and one funeral.  I think the WELL has
      experienced much larger attrition than we have.   
    
    Offhand, I only know of Doug, Hywell, now Carl, and I'm thinking
      we lost Vladymir ??? from Canada to the Grim Reaper ("Смерть").  
      Peter Lissaman (Gossamer Albatross fame) was a SFx regular for a
      while  as were Fred (Unterseher) and Becky though neither were
      FriAM...who we lost over the last roughly 4 years.... sorry to go
      into morbid list-making...  
    
    
    
    On 9/8/24 7:44 PM, Nicholas Thompson
      wrote:
    
    
      
      
        Stephen,
        
        
        It was Carl and you who welcomed me into this community 20
          years ago.
        
        
        Nick
        
      
      
      
        On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at 4:42 PM
          Frank Wimberly <wimber...@gmail.com>
          wrote:
        
        
          I have similar regrets, Stephen.  I live a five
            minute walk from the Hospital.  He and Bruce Sawhill were
            the first people I met at Bios.
          
          
            On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at
              2:12 PM Stephen Guerin <stephen.gue...@simtable.com>
              wrote:
            
            
              Ah man. I heard he was sick last month and
                was slow to arrange a visit. shit.
              
              
              
                On Sun, Sep 8, 2024 at
                  1:20 PM Tom Johnson <jtjohnson...@gmail.com>
                  wrote:
                
                
                  
                    Some of you will remember Carl Tollander, who
                      was a regular attendees on Friday mornings until a
                      few years ago.
                    Tom
                    
                    
                    
                    
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