On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 12:00:06PM -0600, Nicholas Thompson wrote: > > > My Dear Phellow Phriammers, > > Over the years I have asked you some doozies. Still, I am pretty sure this > the > stupidest question I have ever asked this forum, so I am at your mercy. > > I am in one of those situations where language and mathematics are rubbing > together and driving crazy. > > Let say that my patio is ten steps down from my back door. I have two cats, > Dee and Ess, and Dee is dominant to Ess. So, if I go out to let them in, and > I find Ess on step -2 and Dee on step -8, I know I have an unstable > situation. I fear that I will have a cat fight as Dee rushes past Ess to claim > his rightful position by the preferred cat bowl. Intuitively, I would rate > the degree of instability as a positive 6. How would I compare the two > numbers > mathematically to get +6? > > But let’s say that for theoretical reasons I now want to conceive of the > situation as a degree of stability, with negative stability corresponding to > instability. Now, according to my index, the situation is a minus 6. How > would I compare the two numbers mathematically to get a -6? > > The situation I am trying to model here is the origin of the notion of static > stability in meteorology. Static Stability has a lot to do with differential > lapse rates, the degree to which temperature declines with increasing > altitude. > Lapse rates are minus numbers. So a parcel is unstable if it has a lower > lapse rate (a less minus lapse rate?) than surrounding parcels, and the > greater > the absolute value the difference between them, the greater the instability. > > I asked “George” (GPT) to help me with this, but he (?) suggested I just take > absolute values and give them whatever sign I want. However, somebody told > me, > way back when, that taking absolute values was not kosher in mathematics. > (Why > else would the variance be the mean SQUARED deviation about the mean?).
I don't know about kosher, but abs is not differentiable at zero, which may or may not be an issue. In terms of what you're looking for, -8-(-2) = -6. Take their difference - it accords with your intuition. George speaks shit. -- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Dr Russell Standish Phone 0425 253119 (mobile) Principal, High Performance Coders hpco...@hpcoders.com.au http://www.hpcoders.com.au ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/