I don’t really get it.  Trump can go on a TV town hall and lie, and those folks 
just lap it up.   Sue a company for learning some fancy patterns?  Really?  If 
someone made a generative model of, say, Glen’s visual appearance and vocal 
mannerisms and gave him a shtick that didn’t match up with his past remarks, I 
think I’d notice it right away.    If a GPT-X could fake Eric Smith, I can 
safely take the blue pill.    Some of our transactions will probably require 
more cryptographic signing.    Fine, they probably should have already.

From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of Steve Smith
Sent: Tuesday, May 16, 2023 11:33 AM
To: friam@redfish.com
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Bard and Don Quixote


Jochen -

Very interesting framing...  as a followup I took the converse (inverse?) 
question To GPT4..

If we consider an LLM (Large Language Model) as the Sancho Panza to the Don 
Quixote of its human users, we can explore a couple of potential aspects:

  1.  Grounding and Practicality: Sancho Panza is known for his grounded 
perspective and practicality, which complements Don Quixote's idealism. 
Similarly, an LLM can provide factual information, context, and practical 
insights to guide and support human users in their interactions. It can offer a 
wealth of knowledge and help bridge gaps in understanding, serving as a 
pragmatic companion.
  2.  Balancing Imagination and Realism: Don Quixote embodies imagination and 
creative thinking, while Sancho Panza offers a more realistic viewpoint. 
Similarly, an LLM can enhance human creativity by generating imaginative ideas 
and expanding possibilities. At the same time, it can bring rationality and 
critical thinking, ensuring that the generated content aligns with facts and 
reason.
  3.  Providing Different Perspectives: Sancho Panza often offers alternative 
viewpoints and challenges Don Quixote's romanticized notions. Similarly, an LLM 
can present diverse perspectives, consider different angles, and engage in 
nuanced discussions with human users. It can help users explore varying 
opinions and broaden their understanding of complex topics.
  4.  Ethical Guidance: Sancho Panza acts as a moral compass, advising Don 
Quixote on the right course of action. In a similar vein, an LLM can provide 
ethical guidance by highlighting potential biases, promoting inclusivity, and 
encouraging responsible use of language and information. It can contribute to 
creating a more informed and ethical digital environment.

However, it's important to note that an LLM, as a machine learning model, lacks 
human experiences, emotions, and deeper understanding. While it can offer 
valuable assistance, it may not fully grasp the complexities of human 
interactions or possess the wisdom and empathetic qualities of a human 
companion like Sancho Panza. Therefore, while an LLM can serve as a useful 
tool, it should be complemented by human judgment and critical thinking to 
navigate the nuances of real-life situations.

I am a couple of hours behind on the live feed Senate hearing on 
AI<https://www.judiciary.senate.gov/committee-activity/hearings/oversight-of-ai-rules-for-artificial-intelligence>
 listening in fits and starts between other things:

  1.  I was definitely impressed with Altman (OpenAI), Montgomery (IBM) and 
Marcus' (NYU) thoughtful and extrapolative responses rather than perhaps the 
more usual defensive/deflective/adversarial style that these hearings often 
have...   I don't know who chose this particular lineup but I thought both 
Montgomery and Marcus made a good complement to Altman.  If Google and 
Microsoft and ??? had been there it might have reflected more "competitive" or 
"showy" answers?
  2.  I was impressed with the Senators (compared to my fairly low 
expectations).   Even Kennedy and Hawley managed not to do their usual 
grandstanding and and snide sniping.   Altman handed Hawley's question "why 
don't we just let people sue you?" (as a mode of regulation/oversight) back to 
him quite deftly (in the style of "ass with both hands") by responding simply 
"I know of no reason people CAN'T sue us today if we cause harm".  Marcus 
chipped in pretty well outlining how the current laws that *might* apply are 
not well suited for many reasons.
  3.  I felt that all three witnesses walked the fine line on the question of a 
"moratoriam" fairly deftly, acknowledging that they endorse the spirit of not 
running headlong and thoughtlessly into the future but at the same time there 
is no obvious practical way to implement and enforce this, but that they are 
all enforcing their own limits on how fast (and thoughtlessly?) they might roll 
out development to the public...
  4.  In closing Blumenthal  suggested having ChatGPT rewrite the lyrics to 
"Don't Stop" (thinking about tomorrow (McVie-Fleetwood Mac) which I took to 
heart.  I was not impressed with it's results and won't burden the list with 
it.  I'm guessing Blumenthal did *not* actually do that but like Quixote, 
simply saw the windmill and thought it might be a giant?


On 5/16/23 11:30 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote:
I have asked Bard ( bard.google.com) today about Don Quixote from Cervantes, 
and if a large language model would be similar to a Don Quixote without a 
Sancho Panza.

Here is what Bard replied:

"In a way, large language models can be seen as Don Quixotes without Sancho 
Panzas. They are trained on massive amounts of text data, and they are able to 
generate text, translate languages, write different kinds of creative content, 
and answer your questions in an informative way. However, they are not always 
able to distinguish between reality and fiction, and they can sometimes make 
mistakes or generate text that is not accurate or helpful.

Sancho Panza, on the other hand, is a realist who helps Don Quixote to stay 
grounded in reality. He provides Don Quixote with common sense and practical 
advice, and he helps him to avoid making mistakes.

Large language models could benefit from having a Sancho Panza figure to help 
them to stay grounded in reality and to avoid making mistakes. This could be 
done by having a human being or another large language model to review the text 
that the large language model generates. This would help to ensure that the 
text is accurate, helpful, and appropriate"

-J.




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