When we lived in New Mexico, we used to periodically fly out to UCSF to get access to people that are at the top of their fields. I think it will be more the haves and the have nots more so than the blues and the reds. The reds will hold on to political power because, well they are crazy and it is easy to be crazy.
https://www.cnbc.com/2022/05/09/tesla-covers-travel-costs-for-healthcare-including-reportedly-abortions.html -----Original Message----- From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Smith Sent: Friday, June 24, 2022 10:17 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [FRIAM] SCOTUS Tom- Even before the NY CC Gun decision and now Roe v Wade, I have had more than a few people asking me similar questions. I don't have an easy answer. Well, the answer to whether *any* northern European wants to enfold us as refugees is probably "not even"... yet I know plenty who have expatriated themselves to such places without becoming permanent residents (much less citizens). Maybe buying a villa (or whole village) in an (otherwise abandoned) village for EU$1 (anecdotally something like that happens in Italy and maybe Greece and Portugal?) will be enough of a stake to be permanent resident? BTW I find the Scandinavian (at least Norway, Denmark, Sweden) more appealing due to the relatively lower population density and high natural resource context, but only if I am being a selfish-greedy fellow who wants to avoid my own discomfort more than I want to make the world a better place. A new friend/colleague I met here is 75 and was raised in NYC but left the US as conscription raised it's head in the 60s. He came to NL and eventually naturalized, but has lived in Ireland and Iran for significant amounts of time. I'm still interested, myself, in what the implications are of mass defection from the US (or just red-states) by Progressives? I believe many expats around the world maintain (thinly justified) voting registration in the US, but that seems a bit questionable in several ways? I'm also interested in the opposite flow... what if enough Blue folks purple up some Red states to shift the Senate to something more representative? This is fairly abstract even to me as I have plenty of red-tinged neighbors and family that I can't even begin to shift purple even if I talk myself blue (or purple) in the face with them. Most are probably dancing in glee around the Abortion and the Gun debates. Actually, my sister and her husband are not pro-gun at all and probably as pro-choice as they are pro-life, yet somehow they voted for Trump *at least* once! They were also pro-mask/vaxx... hmmm? I think they just like hypercapitalistic extractive industries and "owning Libs"... - Steve On 6/23/22 8:37 PM, Tom Johnson wrote: > Steve: > Given today's reports of the SCOTUS decision on guns, do you think the > Dutch would accept two refugees from the U.S.? > TJ in Malta > > == -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/ -. --- - / ...- .- .-.. .. -.. / -- --- .-. ... . / -.-. --- -.. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Fridays 9a-12p Friday St. Johns Cafe / Thursdays 9a-12p Zoom https://bit.ly/virtualfriam to (un)subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: 5/2017 thru present https://redfish.com/pipermail/friam_redfish.com/ 1/2003 thru 6/2021 http://friam.383.s1.nabble.com/
