I've always wondered why we obsessively dichotomize. I've tried to express my 
confusion in the context of the law of noncontradiction and excluded middle 
since my 1st (authentic) analysis course in college. I'd caught a whiff of 
intuitionism by that time and asked my prof about it. He wisely feigned 
ignorance and suggested I do my homework.

When Dave asks a question like "What is the negation of evolution?", it 
absolutely *begs* us to avoid negation  ... this silly impulse to think in dichotomies. 
Negation is a stupid concept, perhaps the most Evil human invention ... maybe 2nd only to 
religion. And juxtaposed with evolution, which relies heavily on high-dimensional 
contexts, makes it crystal clear how stupid a concept negation actually is.

Now, "opposition" carries much more ambiguity. One could think of it (and "reaction") in 
something like Newton's 3rd law. But the ambiguity also allows us to think in terms of a bushy opposition or 
"response", rather than negation or reaction. So kudos to the quotees who used the more ambiguous 
term, helping us think a little more broadly. And woe to those who read the ambiguous term and preemptively 
register it as the miniscule-minded concept of negation.

That bushy opposition flows nicely into Dave's invocation of "stress". In the 
past, I've expressed affinity with the (ole timey) Cynics who flout contemporary norms 
and attempt for Flow. But if I'm honest, I'm actually anti-Flow ... or maybe it's a kind 
of processor-sliced-multi-Flow. The only time I feel authentic is when I'm surfing a 
stressful context ... like some adrenaline junky hopping from one brief high to another. 
Comfort, Groove, Flow, Eudaimonia, are most accurately mapped to something like laminar 
death. Turbulence is the new groovy. Flow is for squares, man.

On 5/10/22 21:06, Marcus Daniels wrote:
Wokeness or antifa are two reactions to bad faith.  At some point communication 
is no longer occurring and it is delusional to expect a civil dialog.   When 
that happens it is just a matter of whether to keep taking a beating in the 
name of a principle that the other party does not care about (who IS the 
audience for this demonstration of futility?) or to use other means that they 
cannot ignore.

Another way to deal with Trump-like people on social media would be to scale 
the the fact checking with the lying, so that liars have an unblockable 
paragraph of injected correction surrounding each false claim.   Unfortunately 
then the squeaky wheel gets the grease, and that the narcissist gets the 
attention they seek.  In that sense cancellation is better.

On May 10, 2022, at 7:42 PM, Prof David West <[email protected]> wrote:


Quotes:

/"A thing without oppositions ipso facto does not exist ... existence lies in 
opposition."/ C.S. Peirce.

/"It is the hallmark of any deep truth that its negation is also a deep truth." 
/Neils Bohr.

Questions:
What is the negation of evolution? Natural Selection? Survival of the 'Fittest'?

What is the negation of 'bleeding heart liberalism'? Of Trumpism? Of "wokeness?"

Quote:

/"Examine the lives of the best and most fruitful people and peoples and ask 
yourselves whether a tree which is supposed to grow to a proud height could do so without 
bad weather and storms; /*[1]* /whether misfortune and external resistance, whether any 
kinds of hatred, jealousy, stubbornness, mistrust, hardness, greed, and violence to not 
belong to the *_favorable_* conditions without which any great grown even of virtue is 
scarecely possible." F. Nietzsche (emphasis his)/

*[1] *The Biosphere 2 project encountered a problem with trees falling over far 
before they reached their maturity. It was from lack of wind. Wind and 
mechanical stress was required to grow the hard tissues that allowed the tree 
to stand.

Questions:

To what extent do we (denizens of FRIAM and their local cultures) require the 
kinds of stress being encountered in the world?

I suspect that there needs to be a balance between realizable civilization and 
stresses, but how is that balance defoined and, more importantly, found and 
maintained?

Concrete example of last question: Will the Twitterites end up being a better 
or worse 'culture' post-Musk?

davew


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