< Meanwhile let's argue about the details of the tech to use H2 as a 
storage/transportation alternative to fossil fuels and keep on endorsing the 
stacking of the house of cards higher and higher, because after all, like the 
tower of babel we will eventually get to heaven that way? Techno-utopian paths 
forward seem inevitable so I *am* interested in the details of these kinds of 
things, but without an equal focus on reducing our appetite by orders of 
magnitude, I think we are just rearranging deck chairs. >

It just irritates me when a promising system has some property that may need to 
be addressed is dismissed in some drive-by shooting sort of way.
I rarely travel and think that face-to-face communication takes away as much as 
it adds.  People pull their punches when they feel they can be punched.

Marcus

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