Here is a nice essay that asks if we are machines or nothttps://www.thenewatlantis.com/publications/the-unbearable-wholeness-of-beings-J. -------- Original message --------From: Jochen Fromm <[email protected]> Date: 6/26/21 23:22 (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Shared intentionality as the hallmark of multicellular life :-) For me the virus is a good reminder that we are DNA machines based on molecular biology and the genetic code. No matter how much Tolstoy, Balzac or Shakespeare we read, or how much faster cultural evolution may be than biological evolution, if the virus infects us and we are not vaccinated then we get sick.-J.-------- Original message --------From: Frank Wimberly <[email protected]> Date: 6/26/21 22:06 (GMT+01:00) To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Shared intentionality as the hallmark of multicellular life I think viruses are involved in a conspiracy to eliminate us. And they're using the scientific method.---Frank C. Wimberly140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505505 670-9918Santa Fe, NMOn Sat, Jun 26, 2021, 12:19 PM Jochen Fromm <[email protected]> wrote:At the moment I am reading the book "The righteous mind" from Jonathan Haidt. In chapter 9 "why are we so groupish" Jonathan discusses how "shared intentionality" and a shared mental representation helped our ancestors to form larger social groups and to move beyond the capabilities of our primate-like cousins. Words would not only be a link between a sound and an object but first of all an agreeenment among a group of people which sounds are linked to which objects.This chapter reminded me of Nick's article 20 years ago that "Intentionality is the Mark of the Vital". Would it make sense to say that shared intentionality is the hallmark of (multicellular) life and collective intelligence? This would fit to the thesis that the temples of the ancient Greek and the cathedrals of the Middle Ages are fossil remains of the phenotypes from ancient lifeforms. In my opinion the mental differs from the material because we perceive the "mental" usually on the level of the genotype but the "material" on the biological level of the phenotype. -J.- .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/
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