So, I don't know if I'll get a chance to log into the zoom today. But, I've 
written and deleted 2 responses to this (seemingly trolling [⛧]) post. But in 
listening to this during my shower:

Nonreligious Americans Are A Growing Political Force
https://youtu.be/AyRu1OtZutI

I've heard you object to both theism and atheism in a way that seems similar to 
how they're describing the "nones". Despite atheists consistently asserting 
they simply live "without a conception of god", they really are *mostly* people 
who have conceived of (many types of) god(s) and rejected them. So, they do 
think, or have thought, a lot about it. But the nones are, maybe, more the 
people who simply don't think about it very much, or at all. (And if the prof 
in the podcast is right about them being less educated and more concerned with 
making money to survive, etc, then maybe this group doesn't *think* about many 
"high level" things at all.)

To me, any kind of metaphysical belief (or "non-evident" belief) is akin to 
ideas. God is an idea, one of the most dangerous/debilitating of ideas, 
actually. But, going back to Kehinde, the Kantian program (or the 
Enlightenment, even) is just as debilitating (as I alluded to in trashing the 
categorical imperative last week).

And to be clear, just in case your reply was NOT a troll, the ideas, like any 
powerful tool, are only dangerous to the extent by which they *convince* 
someone ... the extent to which the idea *traps* or imprisons you. If you find 
yourself *always* and everywhere referencing a single idea, or using a single 
tool, say, screwing in light bulbs with your hammer, then you are debilitated 
... addicted to that idea.

Those of us (not me) who can don and doff ideas easily may not be aware of how 
debilitating such addictions can be ... like a non-smoker saying "Just quit 
smoking!" And may not see the danger inherent to ideas.


[⛧] Only because it doesn't seem like you've taken any time to understand what 
"idea" means in the context where I used it.

On 4/22/21 3:27 PM, jon zingale wrote:
> """
> including dangerous delusions like "the self", "free will", or "truth".
> """
> 
> Dangerous to whom? I rather like ideas, nature seems full of them.


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