For all the hype, robots are limited in what they can do in your home - The Washington Post<https://www.washingtonpost.com/technology/2021/03/23/future-robots-home-jetsons/>
From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> On Behalf Of Frank Wimberly Sent: Saturday, April 3, 2021 11:24 AM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Dancing Robots You darned cynics https://spectrum.ieee.org/automaton/robotics/humanoids/darpa-selects-boston-dynamics-humanoid-for-robotics-challenge https://www.themarlincompany.com/blog-articles/more-robots-workplace/ https://youtu.be/JGNopwFcz3A I'll find some aiding-the-handicapped examples if you like. Frank --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sat, Apr 3, 2021, 10:46 AM Steve Smith <sasm...@swcp.com<mailto:sasm...@swcp.com>> wrote: The "dancing" robots certainly are compelling to view, though I can see why Gary asked if it was real or memorex (CGI)... there was enough uncanny valley going on in their moves to make it clear that they were following a prescribed choreography. The miniscule detail in the dance moves is what I *think* makes it impressive. I am doubting that the proportions and range of motion/etc of the robotic humanoids is as close to humans' as implied by the constraints (in software, in choreography) imposed. I also wonder how much of this is essentially driven by something like MoCap that is then tweaked to match the dynamical performance envelope/constraints of the robot simulacrum? Or by derivation, ws ther some kind of machine learning going on on a *suite* of human MoCap data sets. Or is there a very capable cyber-choreographer who implicitly understands the robot's "coupled impedance elements" in a way that allows them to hack/hint/nuance the instructions down to this level of performance? Are these class of robots targeted for mission-spec autonomy or are they more targeted to default to being Waldos with some self-driving constraints? I haven't tracked whether the Laban Notation movement has actually been useful to extend into robotic-motion... it starts to seem relevant once humanoid Robots are presented dancing human-dances. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laban_movement_analysis The "impressive illusion" is that these Robots are responding to the music itself and to one another (couples dancing) in a way that seems highly doubtful. They appear to be merely very artful puppets with wireless "strings". No small feat, bringing them to this point, but the most interesting/impressive aspects are likely careful bit-chiseling on the instruction sets. It would be more impressive if they were helping an elderly person go to the bathroom. Chasing a person in irregular terrain would be convincing too. On Apr 3, 2021, at 9:00 AM, Gary Schiltz <g...@naturesvisualarts.com><mailto:g...@naturesvisualarts.com> wrote: Thanks for letting me know. In that case, it is truly mind blowing. I had no idea robotic tech had come so far. On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 10:57 AM Frank Wimberly <wimber...@gmail.com<mailto:wimber...@gmail.com>> wrote: Real!! --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505 505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Sat, Apr 3, 2021, 9:50 AM Gary Schiltz <g...@naturesvisualarts.com<mailto:g...@naturesvisualarts.com>> wrote: Serious question, since I didn't make it to vfriam yesterday. With the advances in CGI these days, I don't know if this is computer generated or real. Which is it? On Sat, Apr 3, 2021 at 10:02 AM Frank Wimberly <wimber...@gmail.com<mailto:wimber...@gmail.com>> wrote: For those who haven't seen the video that was mentioned in yesterday's meeting: https://youtu.be/fn3KWM1kuAw Marc has accomplished a lot since this: * Raibert, M. H., Wimberly, F. C. 1984. Tabular control of balance in a dynamic legged system. IEEE Trans. Systems, Man, and Cybernetics 14:334--339. --- Frank C. 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