Interesting. Thanks. I used Ada for 5 years contracting (mostly for the Army) 
and never once heard any of these terms used that way. And I was part of the 
group that pitched new projects to our clients. I'm wondering if it simply fell 
out of use or if I was too holed up in my own little world. We did commonly use 
the phrases "skeleton" and "fleshing out".

Also FWIW, the straw man fallacy is not solely an adversarial concept. You can 
straw man yourself. You can accidentally straw man someone. There are 3-way 
attempts at constructive ... what? ... trialog (?) where each party straw mans 
the others position on the way to a common ground. Etc.

It's unfortunate that we focus on competitive, zero-sum, and adversarial senses 
of such things. But that need not be the case.


On 1/28/21 12:30 PM, Steve Smith wrote:
> Perhaps no-one cares or shares my confusion with the use
> Strawman/Steelman championed by Glen and adopted by others, however:
> 
>    consensus development:
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man_proposal
> 
>    vs polemical debate:
> 
> https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Straw_man


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