Brilliant! This discussion perfectly exhibits the postmodern condition and the 
flaws of psychodynamic reasoning.

On 12/8/20 9:02 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> I have to say more than once in my life I have attempted to perform 
> deconstruction of an anger state and made the subject more angry.    I 
> suspect this procedure would result in a similar outcome for about 74 million 
> other potential subjects.    "I am angry and you better not step in my anger 
> field!"   "Why do you insensitively ignore my anger field?!"
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Smith
> Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 8:43 AM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Recovery
> 
> I was being my own example of the topic... uttering offended/offensive words 
> without any particular meaning or target... <sorry if I offended you.. <grin>>
> 
> On 12/8/20 9:39 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>> What offends you?   That I would point it is ridiculous (more so than 
>> offensive) to use the occasion of unease resulting from a viral infection to 
>> make a point about whether Consciousness exists?    I just think it is sad 
>> that Frank and Nick can't resolve this, because they've apparently been 
>> working on it so long.   
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of Steve Smith
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 8:36 AM
>> To: [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Recovery
>>
>> That sh*t really offends me and I wish you would cut it the h*ell out!
>> <whimper>
>>
>> On 12/8/20 9:20 AM, uǝlƃ ↙↙↙ wrote:
>>> Nicely circular! You don't have to know/believe the meaning of your words, 
>>> for those words to have meaning. I'm particularly fond of how abusers will 
>>> say something abhorrent, then act all surprised when victims take offense. 
>>> The abuser often takes the stance that they were simply joking and the 
>>> snowflake should grow a thicker skin. I'm as guilty as the rest.
>>>
>>> On 12/8/20 8:15 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
>>>> I was kidding, of course.. believing the topic to be devoid of meaning, 
>>>> and so more absurd than abusive.
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of u?l? ???
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 8, 2020 8:09 AM
>>>> To: [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Nick's Recovery
>>>>
>>>> It's important, even/especially for long-term partners, to reflect on 
>>>> possibly abusive habits. Even if the abused and the abuser *agree* that 
>>>> the habit isn't intentional abuse, an outsider will often *rightly* 
>>>> identify the habit as abusive.
>>>>
>>>> On 12/7/20 6:23 PM, Frank Wimberly wrote:
>>>>> If you agree that was mean please accept my sincere apologies.  I am 
>>>>> hoping that you didn't find it so.  Marcus hasn't been privy to the 
>>>>> hundreds of frank, sometimes humorous, in-person exchanges between us 
>>>>> over the last 15+ years and I meant it in that spirit.

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↙↙↙ uǝlƃ

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