J. Yes. Seething dog vomit! How could it be otherwise? Read the damned news, for god's sake! N.
Nicholas Thompson Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology Clark University [email protected] https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ -----Original Message----- From: Friam <[email protected]> On Behalf Of jon zingale Sent: Wednesday, October 14, 2020 10:24 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [FRIAM] now it's personal *modernist trigger warning* Of those modernists, it was ironically the structuralists (IMO) that opened this door that cannot be closed. Arguably, postmodernism (in particular Derrida) became a scapegoat for what Godel had already established 30 years earlier. The struggle mirrors only too well the immediate reactions of those mathematicians entrenched in Hilbert's dream. To this day, many in the mathematics community avoid a direct gaze and hold the belief that there is nothing to see there. Of course, I always wonder where Nick or EricC might stand with respect to CA and modernism. Every open sub-object, a glider or a metabolic system, is entailed by the CA and not the reverse. To speculate, I suppose Peirce would say that the universe is all *seething dog vomit* with but a few islands of temporally-local persistent patterns recognizable by us. OTOH, we need not be concerned by every possible CA, just the trajectory that we are on. -- Sent from: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/
