> Every time I write "passive", Android mail client auto-completes it as > "passive aggressive". I also find auto-complete/correct to verge on passive aggressive itself sometimes. I'm not sure where the UX for these began to change to "remember" when you "uncorrect" and allows you your idiosyncratic preferences/choices/specifics in the future. Context matters, of course... > > Frank > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > On Fri, Aug 7, 2020, 4:43 PM Edward Angel <an...@cs.unm.edu > <mailto:an...@cs.unm.edu>> wrote: > > Literally it says “it pleases me” which is the passive voice > leading to the question who is “it?" > _______________________ > > Ed Angel > > Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science > Laboratory (ARTS Lab) > Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico > > 1017 Sierra Pinon > Santa Fe, NM 87501 > 505-984-0136 (home) an...@cs.unm.edu <mailto:an...@cs.unm.edu> > 505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel > >> On Aug 7, 2020, at 4:30 PM, Gary Schiltz >> <g...@naturesvisualarts.com <mailto:g...@naturesvisualarts.com>> >> wrote: >> >> I'm no grammar expert, even in my native English, but I don't >> believe "me gusta el cafe" is using passive voice. It literally >> says "coffee pleases me". Comments, Frank? But then, I may be >> confused about what passive voice is. >> >> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 5:23 PM Angel Edward >> <edward.an...@gmail.com <mailto:edward.an...@gmail.com>> wrote: >> >> Isn’t it a consequence of the routine use of the passive >> voice in Spanish as in “me gusta” instead of “yo gusto?” >> >> The passive voice is pretty much gone in textbooks but I >> occasionally I get objections from Spanish speakers who claim >> my textbook can’t be serious because I don’t use the passive >> voice. >> >> Ed >> __________ >> >> Ed Angel >> >> Founding Director, Art, Research, Technology and Science >> Laboratory (ARTS Lab) >> Professor Emeritus of Computer Science, University of New Mexico >> >> 1017 Sierra Pinon >> Santa Fe, NM 87501 >> 505-984-0136 (home) edward.an...@gmail.com >> <mailto:edward.an...@gmail.com> >> 505-453-4944 (cell) http://www.cs.unm.edu/~angel >> >>> On Aug 7, 2020, at 4:17 PM, Gary Schiltz >>> <g...@naturesvisualarts.com >>> <mailto:g...@naturesvisualarts.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Despite living in a Spanish speaking country for 12 years, I >>> still struggle mightily with Spanish grammar. This is mainly >>> due to laziness on my part, as well as lack of necessity to >>> immerse myself in the language (there are a lot of English >>> speakers here, not to mention expat groups on Facebook in >>> English). Still, Spanish is *so* much more consistent in all >>> respects than English - pronunciation especially. But the >>> reflexive verbs are still somewhat of a mystery to me. I've >>> wondered exactly the same thing that Frank mentioned: does >>> "the cup fell itself on me" and "the pencil broke itself on >>> mf" represent desire to avoid responsibility? Maybe even >>> blame the victim? Ouch! Your nose nearly broke my fist! >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 2:06 PM Tom Johnson >>> <t...@jtjohnson.com <mailto:t...@jtjohnson.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Or the equally famous Spanish phrase, "The pencil broke >>> itself." A phrase which you think I would remember. >>> TJ >>> >>> ============================================ >>> Tom Johnson - t...@jtjohnson.com <mailto:t...@jtjohnson.com> >>> Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA >>> 505.577.6482(c) >>> 505.473.9646(h) >>> *NM Foundation for Open Government* <http://nmfog.org/> >>> *Check out It's The People's Data >>> >>> <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Its-The-Peoples-Data/1599854626919671>* >>> >>> ============================================ >>> >>> >>> >>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> >>> Virus-free. www.avast.com >>> >>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> >>> >>> >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 12:55 PM Frank Wimberly >>> <wimber...@gmail.com <mailto:wimber...@gmail.com>> wrote: >>> >>> In Spanish if you drop your cup you say, "See me >>> cayó la taza". A literal word--for-word >>> translation is "The cup fell itself on me". Some >>> people say this is an effort to avoid responsibility. >>> >>> Frank >>> >>> --- >>> Frank C. Wimberly >>> 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, >>> Santa Fe, NM 87505 >>> >>> 505 670-9918 >>> Santa Fe, NM >>> >>> On Fri, Aug 7, 2020, 9:01 AM Barry MacKichan >>> <barry.mackic...@mackichan.com >>> <mailto:barry.mackic...@mackichan.com>> wrote: >>> >>> Very much so. We hired a grad student a long >>> time ago (he stayed with us until he retired). >>> He wrote great Pascal programs. He wrote great >>> Pascal programs in C++, and in JavaScript. The >>> effect of your first programming language on >>> style, idioms, and your feelings about recursion >>> and encapsulation. >>> >>> —Barry >>> >>> On 6 Aug 2020, at 23:24, thompnicks...@gmail.com >>> <mailto:thompnicks...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>> Nah. He means more than that. Even >>> ordinary languages predispose users to one >>> kind of discourse or another. 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