Nick: The advantage of being in a journalism dept. was that I got battle ribbons for publishing in the non-academic publications that also paid me for that work. Hell, they even paid expenses. A semi-double-dipping, one would think. Though I did publish in a few academic journals, usually upon invitation, that was never my main focus. Tom
============================================ Tom Johnson - t...@jtjohnson.com Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) *NM Foundation for Open Government* <http://nmfog.org> *Check out It's The People's Data <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Its-The-Peoples-Data/1599854626919671>* ============================================ <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> Virus-free. www.avast.com <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2> On Sun, Jul 5, 2020 at 3:07 PM <thompnicks...@gmail.com> wrote: > Hi, Tom, I take that to be a rhetorical question. > > > > However, in my experience, no publisher has ever failed to give me back a > copyright when I asked for it, so I have never had to put the concept to > the test. > > > > If you ask me to express my honest feelings in the matter I would say that > I was overwhelmingly lucky to be paid by my university to write, and to the > extent that that writing brought me income beyond my salary, I was doubly > and unreasonably blessed. > > > > Nick > > > > Nicholas Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University > > thompnicks...@gmail.com > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Tom Johnson > *Sent:* Sunday, July 5, 2020 3:01 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Book publishing advice needed > > > > Nick: How and who is going to define "no longer promotes it."? > > t > > > ============================================ > Tom Johnson - t...@jtjohnson.com > Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA > 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) > *NM Foundation for Open Government* <http://nmfog.org> > *Check out It's The People's Data > <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Its-The-Peoples-Data/1599854626919671>* > > > ============================================ > > > > > > [image: Image removed by sender.] > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> > > > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 2:46 PM <thompnicks...@gmail.com> wrote: > > At the very list, the contract should explicitly say that rights revert to > the author when the publisher no longer maintains the book in print and > promotes it. I often edited my magazine contracts to give only first > rights. I agree with Tom, that copyright should stay with the author. > > > > N > > > > Nicholas Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University > > thompnicks...@gmail.com > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> *On Behalf Of *Tom Johnson > *Sent:* Saturday, July 4, 2020 2:32 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > friam@redfish.com> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] Book publishing advice needed > > > > Another advantage of self-publishing is that you retain the copyright. > Ergo, you can license it to a publisher for an updated edition or just > distribution. > > Tom > > > ============================================ > Tom Johnson - t...@jtjohnson.com > Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA > 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) > *NM Foundation for Open Government* <http://nmfog.org> > *Check out It's The People's Data > <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Its-The-Peoples-Data/1599854626919671>* > > > ============================================ > > > > > > [image: Image removed by sender.] > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> > > > > On Sat, Jul 4, 2020 at 2:25 PM Jochen Fromm <j...@cas-group.net> wrote: > > Thanks. Yes, self-publishing is an option. I am looking for an official > publisher mainly for one reason, namely that other scientists and > researchers can cite it, since I still cling to the illusion that someone > would actually do it. Normally self-published texts are not considered as > reliable or trustworthy sources. I didn't expect that finding a decent > publisher would be so difficult. > > > > -J. > > > > > > -------- Original message -------- > > From: Tom Johnson <t...@jtjohnson.com> > > Date: 7/4/20 20:10 (GMT+01:00) > > To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com> > > > Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Book publishing advice needed > > > > Jochen: > > The deal being offered strikes me as a bad deal. > > > > Background: I have been practicing and teaching about "Be Your Own > Publisher" for nearly 15 years. There are, in my opinion, some major > problems with all publishers today. It starts with control of the > copyright. I think YOU should want to maintain control of the copyright to > your work. It will depend on the contract, but many or most publishers > will try to lock down the copyright in their favor for all -- ALL -- forms > of your work in perpetuity and throughout the universe. Sometimes quite > literally. > > > > Second, you should assume -- especially with a small publisher and you, > not being as well known as Stephen King or Daniel Steele -- the publisher > will do little if anything to promote your book beyond a mention in its > catalog and, maybe, some promotional links on Amazon. Given that, a 5 > percent royalty should be seen as a con. > > > > Third, given your computing experience, you should find it easy to format > and produce the book yourself. I have used Lulu.com for years. It is > especially good if you want to have both hardback, paperback and PDF > editions. Again the advantages: you keep the copyright, you can set (and > change) the prices and to a degree the royalties. Also, Lulu and Amazon > handle all the backend financial arrangements and administration and pay > directly and quickly. I also use a very good, high quality digital printer > in Albuquerque for paperback editions. It is Lithexcel > <https://lithexcel.com/services/print.html>. It handles all the printing > (one copy to any number) quickly, along with all the fulfillment and > accounting. The folks there will also, for only $25, set up your book in > the Amazon inventory search engine. Finally, there is Amazon's > self-publishing arm > <https://www.bookbaby.com/free-publishing-guides?utm_campaign=GOOSL31&utm_source=SITELINK&utm_medium=cpc&mkwid=sNzCXe5z8_dc%7Cpcrid%7C238281756657%7Cpmt%7Ce%7Cpkw%7Camazon%20book%20publishing%7Cslid%7CcWU1oXIv%7Ctargetids%7Ckwd-362938383597%7Cgroupid%7C48812614458%7C&pgrid=48812614458&ptaid=kwd-362938383597&gclid=Cj0KCQjw0YD4BRD2ARIsAHwmKVnFci42apQ6vWUruvHuYX-FOum9VCF7bx83c_tSMHGoby8yylL_RTMaAjOEEALw_wcB>. > While Amazon might take a bigger slice, the control over all aspects is in > your hands. > > > > Here's the problem/challenge with all of these. *YOU* have to do the > marketing/publicity/promotion. But so what? If you today sign with any > publisher of any size you will have to do the same thing. > > > > Hope this helps. Feel free to contact me with questions. Also you might > want to see https://bit.ly/2ZvihKc > > Tom > > > ============================================ > Tom Johnson - t...@jtjohnson.com > Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA > 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) > *NM Foundation for Open Government* <http://nmfog.org> > *Check out It's The People's Data > <https://www.facebook.com/pages/Its-The-Peoples-Data/1599854626919671>* > > > ============================================ > > > > > > [image: Image removed by sender.] > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=icon> > > Virus-free. www.avast.com > <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=webmail&utm_term=link> > > > > On Fri, Jul 3, 2020 at 1:29 AM Jochen Fromm <j...@cas-group.net> wrote: > > At one end of the spectrum there are the 5 big commercial publishers > Hachette, HarperCollins, Macmillan, Penguin Random House and Simon & > Schuster. They only publish stuff their agents select to make a lot of > money. There are also the big academic publishers like OUP, CUP, HUP and > MIT Press, which preferably publish strictly peer-reviewed content from > professors at Ivy League universities who made their PhD at the age of 20. > > > At the other end of the spectrum there are "predatory publishers" who > publish anything you submit as long as you pay enough money for it. Open > access books can also be very expensive. Publishing an "open access book" > at De Gruyter for example costs up to 8000 $. You pay for it so that other > people read it. It is basically some kind of advertising of your own work. > > > For my own new book I finally have an offer from a small publisher in > Washington D.C. who is somewhere in the middle of the spectrum. They are > really small and offer 5% royalties. Should I accept this offer or wait for > a better one? It is the only one from more than 25 publishers I have asked, > and the publishers at the moment are flooded with submissions. :-/ > > https://www.theguardian.com/books/booksblog/2020/mar/26/novel-writing-during-coronavirus-crisis-outbreak > > > > -J. > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ > > - .... . -..-. . -. -.. -..-. .. ... -..-. .... . .-. . > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Zoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriam > un/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ >
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