[email protected] --- Frank C. Wimberly 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, Santa Fe, NM 87505
505 670-9918 Santa Fe, NM On Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 10:03 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > Does anybody have bill McCallum’s email address? > > > > If you send it to me personally, I will try to get him to join us. > > > > Nick > > > > Nicholas Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University > > [email protected] > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 23, 2020 9:56 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] End most covid transmission? > > > > I still wonder what happened to Bill McCallum. He hadn't come for some > time before we switched to Zoom. > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 9:53 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > > No worries, Frank. It didn’t really deserve to be taken seriously. It’s > one of those “emperor’s new clothes” ideas that we all have from time to > time, based on the outrageously arrogant and preposterous idea that I see > things that the experts haven’t seen, and if only, etc., the world would be > a better place and I would be rich and famous, etc. I love the idea of > walking around the world in proton-emitting polymer gloves that would no > doubt etch the surface of everything I touched. Fingerprint Man! > > > > The great thing about friam is there is often somebody wlling to kick > around almost any old idea. > > > > Nicholas Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University > > [email protected] > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *Frank Wimberly > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 23, 2020 9:37 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] End most covid transmission? > > > > Nick, > > > > I apologize for not taking it seriously. I'm sorry. > > > > Frank > > --- > Frank C. Wimberly > 140 Calle Ojo Feliz, > Santa Fe, NM 87505 > > 505 670-9918 > Santa Fe, NM > > > > On Tue, Jun 23, 2020, 9:32 PM <[email protected]> wrote: > > Eric and all, > > > > Thanks for taking it seriously. Do we know anyone who could comment on > the notion further. Would cotton gloves washed in vinegar be anti viral > when dried? > > > > Nick > > > > Nicholas Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology > > Clark University > > [email protected] > > https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/ > > > > > > *From:* Friam <[email protected]> *On Behalf Of *David Eric Smith > *Sent:* Tuesday, June 23, 2020 6:32 PM > *To:* The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group < > [email protected]> > *Subject:* Re: [FRIAM] End most covid transmission? > > > > Nick and all, hi, > > > > This will be completely un-useful and un-actionable to anybody, but the > way you phrased your question is interesting anyway. > > > > When there was a push to develop fuel cells with polymer membranes, to get > away from platinum-palladium catalysts, one of the problems was that they > needed a membrane that would be proton-donating (so, functioning as an acid > by the Bronsted definition). There was a heavy raft of work for perhaps a > decade (maybe much longer) on polymer materials that have very acidic > side-chains. I don’t know how anything like that behaves if it is out > under air, rather than in a fluid environment. But if viruses are not dry, > and are hosted in small droplets for a time, perhaps that distinction is > less relevant. > > > > In any case, considering that the glove industry is probably entirely > predicated on reducing unit cost, and that I have no idea what the > elasticity may be of fuel cell membrane polymers, they probably will not be > glove material anytime soon. I haven’t even looked at that literature for, > what, maybe 15 years (?). So I have no idea what the state of development > is now. > > > > Eric. > > > > On Jun 23, 2020, at 3:38 AM, <[email protected]> < > [email protected]> wrote: > > > > Any materials experts out there? > > > > Ok, so. We know that most covid transmission is hand to face and we know > that the virus is highly vulnerable to acids and some other substances. Is > it not possible to design gloves (and perhaps masks) with those substances > embedded? How about cloth gloves dunked in vinegar and hung out to dry > before wearing? Is vinegar still acid when it’s dry? > > > > Yeah. I know. Dumb. 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