oh sorry, I overlooked your post. When does an opinion become propaganda? I think this happens when you repeat one-sided opinions. In this sense the NY Times tried to do the right thing, but failed nevertheless :-/-J. -------- Original message --------From: uǝlƃ ☣ <[email protected]> Date: 6/5/20 16:15 (GMT+01:00) To: FriAM <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Freedom of opinion or fascist trap New York Times says senator Tom Cotton's op-ed did not meet editorial standards https://www.theguardian.com/media/2020/jun/05/new-york-times-says-tom-cotton-opinion-piece-did-not-meet-editorial-standardsAs I tried to say in my previous post: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/credibility-tp7596748.htmlThe NYT has lost its Op-Ed credibility. For me, Bret Stephens was the trigger. I'd already been miffed that I couldn't simply suspend my subscription for a little while. You have to call them on the phone, which is irritating for someone who doesn't like talking on the phone. So, hiring Stephens was the 2nd justification. And I've considered re-subscribing since their GitHub covid19 data came online. But then the Cotton Op-Ed changed my mind. With their backtracking and now admitting the Cotton Op-Ed was a mistake, I'm more likely to resub before the elections. Their election tools are great.But their credibility has taken a huge hit, however you cut it.On 6/5/20 4:32 AM, Jochen Fromm wrote:> The NY Times op ed from Tom Cotton named "Send in the troops" has caused a bit of a controversy, even inside the NY Times > https://www.nytimes.com/2020/06/03/opinion/tom-cotton-protests-military.html> > The NY Times is trying to represent the whole spectrum of politically significant opinions. If they only print opinions that fit to one worldview they are making propaganda. If they publish all kinds of opinions, they may support fascism, authoritarianism or racism.> > How do you solve this dilemma? Did they fall into a trap now because they have supported the rise of fascism by printing this opinion, as Jason Stanley, the author of "How fascism works" says?-- ☣ uǝlƃ- .... . -..-. . ...- --- .-.. ..- - .. --- -. -..-. .-- .. .-.. .-.. -..-. -... . -..-. .-.. .. ...- . -..-. ... - .-. . .- -- . -..FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listservZoom Fridays 9:30a-12p Mtn GMT-6 bit.ly/virtualfriamun/subscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.comarchives: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/
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