In the one study I have done of dreaming, we had people write down stories just 
after awakening and asked people to tell them apart from dreams written down 
just after awakening and from phony dreams written while fully awake.  It was 
just a pilot study, but the fake dreams were easier to distinguish than the 
non=dream awakening stories.  I should haste to say, it was a long time ago. 

N

Nicholas Thompson
Emeritus Professor of Ethology and Psychology
Clark University
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https://wordpress.clarku.edu/nthompson/
 


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On 5/20/20 9:39 AM, Steve Smith wrote:
> This frames this type of dream experience (for me) as a sort of 
> post-hoc storytelling-as-experience.

Same here. It reminds me that someone, here, recently mentioned famous people 
coming up with solutions to problems while distracted with other tasks (was it 
Erdös?) and of the falsificationist concept (Popper?) focusing on science being 
*open*. It doesn't really matter AT ALL where an idea comes from. What matters 
is that it's formulated and tested. So that's yet another reason a dream study 
would only be well-designed as a study of story-telling.

There are implications in that for things like intelligence, creativity, 
innovation, and education. If we assume everyone has brain farts like 
Einstein's or Penrose's or whoever, then what matters is these people's ability 
to *harness* (or harvest?) those brain farts and tell a story about them.

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