Topics arose on Friday that I would be interested in pursuing if anyone else 
shares the interest

We briefly talked about story and evocation versus representation

I claimed that a words and pictures can be placed on a continuum between 
representational and evocative. A journal article being closer to 
representation, poetry closer to evocative. Pictures are more likely to be 
evocative (although the typical "here I am at the Grand Canyon" pic is mostly 
representative) because sight dominates our senses and text has to be processed 
via the left-brain before we can make sense of / react to it.

Stories can be fixed on the same spectrum. I have spent a lot of time working 
with story within the world of software development. Although story has been a 
constant in software (e.g.UML Use Cases, Agile User Stories) they have been 
nearly useless because they are representational - requirement capture - in 
nature and stripped of evocative context.

Nick raised the issue of being contrarian with regards science and could get no 
one to admit to anything beyond ignoring doctor's orders. This conversation 
also briefly touched on conspiracies and the possibility of a conspiracy 
without conspirators.

My frequent COVID contrariness is, I think, an example of what Nick was looking 
for. It certainly contains the arrogance of thinking I am better informed with 
regard relevant data than what is contained in the models and prognostications 
put forward by the experts.

Also, I would assert that the "Deep State" is a real thing, and an exemplar of 
a conspiracy without conspirators.

Thirdly, we talked about charity and the gap between personal and 
institutional. Contrary to Steve, who noted he grew up absent any kind of 
religious charitable context, I grew up in a culture where personal charity, 
awareness, and mutual aid was ubiquitous and constant. Welfare was distributed 
with every Bishop (roughly equivalent to parish priest - responsible for 
100-150 families) had full authority to grant food, clothing, housing, etc. 
assistance to anyone within his Ward. Social contact, both in church services 
but also via activities like Family Home Teaching, meant that everyone in the 
Ward was aware of the needs of everyone else and the Bishop was fully informed 
as well. When families, even communities, experienced disaster, it was 
rectified in a matter of days and months. Similar things have been observed in 
Mennonite and Amish communities.

The social system integrated with the LDS religion (or Amish or Mennonite) can 
provide both the personal and the institutional support, and charity, that will 
forever elude bureaucratic government.

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