Is your paper available? On Mon, Nov 25, 2019 at 7:11 AM Prof David West <profw...@fastmail.fm> wrote:
> Some comments that might be intrusive (in which case, I apologize and > please ignore) or contributory as context to the "ownership" discussion. > > Two-years ago I presented a paper, "Patterns of Humanity," at a social > change conference. Part of the paper dealt with "economics," — in. > quotation marks because not all of economics, but practical efforts to set > up alternative mechanisms for economic exchange. > > All systems of exchange can be derived from three human/cultural patterns > of reciprocity: general, balanced, and negative. Simplified: General is > akin to parent-child, value is given with little regard for "repayment" > except in very general and delayed terms (kids take care of their parents > in old age); Balanced is implied by the name, exchange occurs but is > balanced among all members of the group - with remarkably precise awareness > of any imbalances, (we all know which of us missed their turn to buy a > round of drinks when we are out partying); Negative is both sides trying to > maximize benefit at the expense of the other party. > > The key factor in viability of each type is social distance; general > within family, balanced among small groups, and negative the only one that > scales and includes strangers. > > Markets can be based on balanced reciprocity, but only at relative small > scale, e.g. the village or a community like the Amish. > > Almost all markets with which we are familiar and within which we > participate are grounded in negative reciprocity. Because these are focused > on asymmetric outcomes; they are enhanced by asymmetry with regard the > factors of the mechanism of exchange. Two of the most common are asymmetry > with regards information and asymmetry with regards power. > > A concept of "ownership" is but a tool for establishing or enhancing an > asymmetry of power. > > Like Markets, a "Commons" can be grounded in balanced or negative > reciprocity. The possibility of a "balanced" Commons is constrained, by > social distance. The only way to ensure the minimal social distance > necessary for a balanced Commons is some kind of overriding Culture. So it > works just fine in groups with a strong defining culture like the Amish, > Mennonites, and pre-statehood Mormon communities. > > Commons derived from negative reciprocity are doomed to "failure." > > davew > > > On Thu, Nov 21, 2019, at 8:36 PM, Marcus Daniels wrote: > > Nick writes: > > > > < Dogs seem to have (or enact) a concept of ownership. > > > > > Just have to bite on this one: My cattle dog seems to think of her > > collar as jewelry. If I take it off she chases after me and tries to > > get it back. > > > > < This scheme is known as altruistic enforcement because from a > > Darwinian modeling point of view, it's hard to see why the dominant > > individuals -- the soldiers, if you will -- don't pool their resources > > and take down the Don. > > > > > Each would have to believe the new boss would be better than the old > > boss, that it wouldn't be them, and that someone will be the boss. > > They've invested in an organization that has a pecking order, and so it > > would be dangerous to suddenly abandon it in favor of a looser cabal: > > Everyone beneath each of them might do the same. > > > > Marcus > > > > > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC> > http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >
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