Thanks, Merle. I shall. ----------------------------------- Frank Wimberly
My memoir: https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly My scientific publications: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 Phone (505) 670-9918 On Mon, Aug 19, 2019, 12:50 PM Merle Lefkoff <merlelefk...@gmail.com> wrote: > I did, Frank, and you should check out Trevor Noah, who the generations > behind us listen to and who does an even better job than Colbert and Cooper. > > On Mon, Aug 19, 2019 at 12:46 PM Frank Wimberly <wimber...@gmail.com> > wrote: > >> ... like empathy is a muscle that atrophies if not exercised >> >> And which is made possible by universal suffering according to Colbert >> and Cooper. Has anyone seen that video I linked? >> >> Frank >> ----------------------------------- >> Frank Wimberly >> >> My memoir: >> https://www.amazon.com/author/frankwimberly >> >> My scientific publications: >> https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Frank_Wimberly2 >> >> Phone (505) 670-9918 >> >> On Mon, Aug 19, 2019, 11:56 AM uǝlƃ ☣ <geprope...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Yes, I think this "savior" narrative was why this particular one was >>> interesting. There are a spate of articles talking about how our modern >>> tech isolates us more than it connects us, or how outrage clickbait gives a >>> dopamine rush and such, or how the incels and the alt-right bois are >>> disaffected and radicalized through their isolation. In such a cultural >>> context, it seems reasonable that messages like this (including newage BS >>> like "the law of attraction") might hit a vulnerable spot similar to what >>> Nick mentions. >>> >>> The mechanisms/exploits Marcus mentions in PDF files parsed by Acrobat >>> Reader, macro-laden Office or obfuscated JavaScript, including the tracking >>> pixels mentioned by Eric and Steve are much less interesting to me ... >>> maybe because I understand those tools. I definitely do NOT understand the >>> position someone would have to be in to click something thinking there's >>> any kind of hopeful, life-changing, message or secret at the other end of >>> the link. It's that psychological "exploit" that's most interesting to me. >>> It's just like the Nigerian scam, only instead of targeting lazy, greedy, >>> get-rich-quick suckers, they target lazy, lonely, get-relationships-easy >>> suckers. >>> >>> My intuition hints at some loss of empathy, some kind of objectification >>> of others ... e.g. that one might see all the pretty people on instagram >>> always having fun, never slumped in fits of depression, and thinking how >>> cool the lives of those objectified non-people must be. I caught a snippet >>> of a conversation on NPR where the person suggested that empathizing enough >>> with animals so that *eating* them might feel a bit like cannibalism may >>> *foster* empathy with other humans, over and above that with animals. ... >>> like empathy is a muscle that atrophies if not exercised. >>> >>> My guess is that the person who might click on the Archangel Michael >>> links is just such an isolated Gollum, who feels like their life is >>> hopeless and the world is cruel ... always hunting for that get-happy-quick >>> Precious that must be out there somewhere, if only they could find it. >>> >>> On 8/17/19 9:30 AM, Pietro Terna wrote: >>> > What is very interesting for me is that the "Archangel Michael's >>> Message For You" >>> > text reproduces a quite archaic format used in Italy, but I guess not >>> only, for >>> > handwritten messages diffused by old mail. >>> > E.g. https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catena_di_sant%27Antonio >>> > >>> > The format always quotes one or more relatives or fiends by name >>> etc. having received >>> > benefits and requires prayers etc. >>> > >>> > Very interesting this form of modern survival. >>> >>> -- >>> ☣ uǝlƃ >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >>> FRIAM-COMIC <http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/FRIAM-COMIC> >>> http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >>> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >> > > > -- > Merle Lefkoff, Ph.D. > President, Center for Emergent Diplomacy > emergentdiplomacy.org > Santa Fe, New Mexico, USA > merlelefk...@gmail.com <merlelef...@gmail.com> > mobile: (303) 859-5609 > skype: merle.lelfkoff2 > twitter: @Merle_Lefkoff > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > archives back to 2003: http://friam.471366.n2.nabble.com/ > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >
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