Yep.  That's a fantastic example of metaphysical predisposition interfering 
with one's ability to reason well.  When I was a kid, my mom and I would argue 
a lot about whether animals had souls.  She claimed they absolutely did not.  
Being young, I had no real idea what a soul was.  But I would argue that her 
justification for her belief was all from her religion (Catholicism).  
*Practically*, her belief was exhibited when my beagle (Snoopy, of course) was 
killed by a car.  She tossed his body in the regular garbage and he was crushed 
and hauled away.  To this day, she has no idea why that was so horrible.


On 07/19/2018 09:15 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:
> <    Data driven modeling takes a different approach.  It _attempts_ to 
> derive models *directly* from the biology (as directly as possible, anyway), 
> rather than going through us (obviously fallible) human abstraction machines. 
>  Machine learning is an attempt at this.  Teh *-omics are attempts at this.  
> Etc.  And while it's (currently) true that such modeling efforts remain, in 
> general, less efficient and effective at building useful models, they are 
> making some progress.  E.g. 
> https://www.news-medical.net/news/20180712/Study-suggests-database-analysis-better-predicts-toxicity-of-chemicals-than-animal-testing.aspx
>   >
> 
> This reminds me of how some say that dogs don't have shame or dogs don't love 
> you, etc. that the head-hanging is just an empty learned behavior to get 
> along with humans.
> Who says humans are any different?


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