In a design, I think it is useful to tolerate confusion about some things (e.g. 
not identifying some types or their domains, or whether certain propositions 
are true) even though other parts are clear.   It involves ratcheting things 
down in a breadth-first or depth-first way, depending on the situation.   From 
a fitness perspective, it is not useful to have just true and false.  That does 
not guide selection in a useful way.   And late binding just sweeps the problem 
under the rug by allowing for a little more measurement of fitness (before a 
paradox or crash).   Evolving designs need that English teacher that can 
mark-up an essay end-to-end and advise that some parts need to be thrown away 
and other parts just need minor tweaks – multi-criteria fitness for sure.  
Logic by itself does not accomplish that.   Some of these species of reasoners 
are better at synthesis than the `accurate reasoner’.

From: Friam [mailto:friam-boun...@redfish.com] On Behalf Of Steven A Smith
Sent: Wednesday, September 20, 2017 3:51 PM
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group <friam@redfish.com>
Subject: [FRIAM] Doxastic logic - Wikipedia

Tangentially on the topic of Philosophy v. Physics,  in my review of 
Dempster-Shaffer (to avoid making too stupid of misrepresentations on my 
bumper-sticker) I was fascinated to find Raymond Smullyan's "Types of 
Reasoners" reduced to formal logic (but also couched in natural language 
explanations).
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Doxastic_logic#Types_of_reasoners
FWIW, I contend that *LOGIC* is used (critical to) in the natural sciences but 
does not *arise from* them... it arises from Philosophy (Epistemology) and is 
formalized in Mathematics and merely USED by Science.

I don't know if someone already quoted Feynman on the topic:
    "philosophy of science is as useful to scientists as ornithology is to 
birds."

I suspect that if birds had the type of consciousness that included 
self-image/awareness and the abstractions of language, that *some* would at 
least find ornithology *interesting* and might even find some practical ways to 
apply what they learn from "the study of birds".    But no, for the first part 
it wouldn't make them better fliers, predators, foragers, scavengers, etc.   
And most *good* Scientists I know don't know much about or care about the 
larger roles of Epistemology and Metaphysics, which *sometimes* leads them to 
believe they have answered the hard questions outside of the bounds of 
Empirical Science *with* Empirical Science?   Like the "spherical cow", they 
just "assume away" the features that their measurements and models don't/can't 
address (much less answer).

Mumble,
 - Steve
============================================================
FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com
FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove

Reply via email to