Owen,

On several occasions over the years, I have been advised by `neural third 
parties' that the content of my writing can be edgy, but that in person I'm 
"Not that way" or "He's fine."   Now, some people think that in-person 
interactions are more representative of a person's character.   That if we just 
get in front of one another and _see_ the others' feelings, all conflict will 
be resolved.  No.  I would suggest Roberts' (Friedman, and other popular 
writers) preoccupation with civility is mistaken.   Civility may keep people 
from killing each other, temporarily, but it certainly isn't informative.  It 
is just the application of social skill, and this is not the same thing as 
listening, thinking, or being honest in debate.  It is a weak facilitator.  The 
problem with the current situation is that one side is just dishonest.  In the 
ternary world of politics, the `don't care' folks are in the crossfire, and 
that is appropriate.


Marcus

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From: Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com> on behalf of Owen Densmore 
<o...@backspaces.net>
Sent: Wednesday, September 13, 2017 9:04:42 PM
To: Complexity Coffee Group
Subject: [FRIAM] The World Turned Upside Down (and what to do about it)

Medium, my current outlet of choice, has an interesting "story" (Medium deals 
in Stories, not Tech nor Politics nor ...). It echos a lot of what we've been 
dealing with.
​    ​
https://medium.com/@russroberts/the-world-turned-upside-down-and-what-to-do-about-it-2dc27d1cf5f5

​Somewhat dark, but awfully close to home.

   -- Owen ​

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