Merle -

Thanks for offering this up. My own maunderings about "what is in human nature" having me trust that we are still *mostly* the animals who gathered in groups of order Dunbar number (150?) who *mostly* loved one another and treated one another with respect and generosity (up to a myriad quirks of personality and a shared fate).

On the other hand, while members of said community/group/tribe/pack/herd might extend some of that goodwill toward others they recognized as same/thePeople, they had good reason to be less generous/trusting toward others who were not so familiar, who spoke unrecognizeable languages, whose skin/hair/eye color or features were significantly different. I think these are very real evolutionarily adaptive roots of what we see as Xenophobia today.

I don't describe this as a way of trying to normalize racist/ethnic bigotry, but rather to acknowledge that it has some instinctual roots that focus the "hateful/fearful teachings" that become institutionalized in subcultures and perhaps entire cultures. And it is this wholesale adoption by a group which ends up not only teaching, but maintaining the fear (and therefore hate?).

I know your work is IN "peacebuilding". Does your model include an acceptance of these somewhat instinctual responses to "the Other" ?

I was very pleased to see the speech by Heather's mother today which I thought held a very positive message in what must be a very tragic moment for her.

- Steve


On 8/16/17 4:16 PM, Merle Lefkoff wrote:
Obama's tweet about the events in Charlottesville got the most "likes" of any tweet in twitter history. It is a quote from Nelson Mandela: "No one is born hating another person because of the color of his skin or his background or his religion … People must learn to hate, and if they can learn to hate, they can be taught to love … For love comes more naturally to the human heart than its opposite,”

On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 12:50 PM, Steven A Smith <sasm...@swcp.com <mailto:sasm...@swcp.com>> wrote:

    Marcus/Eric -


    Great observations, both.   I think this cuts to (part of) the
    heart of the matter.


    I just recently watched "Glass Castle" (current run at Violet
    Crown) with Woody Harrelson playing the role of a fairly
    intelligent (his daughter, the memoirist characterizes him as
    brilliant) but highly dysfunctional father of 4 who himself has
    (mostly/almost) escaped the small Appalachian coal-mining town he
    was raised in by an acutely abusive mother and an
    apathetic/dysfunctional father and greater community.   The family
    lives a vagabond life with Harrelson's character (Rex) leading
    them on an alternatingly merry and curiosity-driven chase through
    skipping out on bill collectors and trying to find the "next big
    opportunity" and "escape the forces out to repress us!".    It is
    (IMO) a great story of a nearly effective attempt (by the parents)
    to escape/transcend their own dysfunctional roots and the mostly
    effective experience of the children escaping their own (passed
    down a generation) from that half-functional platform.


    I also picked up (at a "tiny library" in a neighborhood) a copy JD
    Vance's "Hillbilly Legacy", a memoir written by a 31 year old
    Harvard educated lawyer, now living happily (and presumably
    functionally) in San Francisco with his wife and child(ren?), but
    still quite attached emotionally/romantically to his own roots in
    Appalachia (a small KY coal mining town) and the Rustbelt
    (Middletown OH, aka MiddleTucky) where all of his family and most
    of his childhood friends still live and vote for and continue to
    support Trump.


    The common thread is the abject hopelessness that surrounded the
    people locked into those environments by circumstance, including
    lack of perspective to "just leave".   Vance credits his
    Grandparents who raised him most of his life for having had enough
    perspective to shield him from the worst of that and to
    encourage/help him "just leave".   His chronicle (I also listened
    to an NPR book interview when it came out maybe a year ago)
    includes feeling that he had "done everything in his power to
    waste his life up until about 18 years old" and looking at his
    cohort and family, might use the term "but for the grace of God,
    there go I".


    My Pollyanna (a fairly significant player in my personal Pantheon
    of Personalities which helps me cope with the kinds of Cosmic
    Ennui and Existential Angst that comes with trying to be a
    thinking/caring person in these hyper-connected, seemingly chaotic
    times) has me looking for a "bright side" of all of this.


    I particularly want to call out the following quote from Marcus:

        /A healthy society is one where individuals can mature to the
        point they can begin to doubt the meaning in their own
        anxiety (whether by themselves, with their shrink or their
        spiritual authority) and make it to the next day. /

    and offer a rewording (my words are _underlined_) or expansion:

        "/whether with themselves, their shrink, their spiritual
    authority,/ _or their community of emergently self-enlightened
    people_"

        and

        "/and make it /_beyond_/the next day/ _and into a new era of
    contagious enlightened self-interest_"

    I hope that if we can ever get through this acutely dark/inverted
    time that we can follow some of the example of Nelson Mandela in
    his perspective and leadership out of the centuries long
    oppression of his people that was most recently exhibited as
    Apartheid.   Obviously that moment was only a partial antidote, as
    too many of the original problems linger or arise again.   But I
    *think* it was a better solution than to the similarly
    genocidal/punative response many of his people were calling for
    when the descendents of their Colonial Overlords finally fell.

    I heard recently a quote from Barbara Boxer as she left the
    political stage after many decades:
        "No victory is final"

    This underscores why we are dealing with the rise of
    white-supremacy/nazi/confederate/kkk, gender oppression,  and many
    other battles presumed to have been won.   This moment (in most
    places) is nothing like the conditions of the antebellum South,
    nor the era of Nazi/Fascist power in Europe, but there are clearly
    strong echoes.   Such things *might* be suppressed temporarily by
    force, but ultimately those kinds of behaviours/activities
    dissipate through healing and enlightenment much more than
    regulation/punishment/suppression.

    my $.02,
     - Steve

    On 8/16/17 9:10 AM, Marcus Daniels wrote:

    Eric writes:


    < It is not so far from Nietzche’s notion that “God is dead”
    creates a problem for people, and they will face a fork in the
    road in how they try to deal with it. >


    Yeah, it is probably nothing new that is happening nor a new
    interpretation.  Institutions of various kinds can give
    individuals a role to play and guidelines for conduct, but a
    highly interconnected population with a complex economy will
stress these institutions and reveal their limitations. Meanwhile, only exceptional and delusional individuals can really
    make a convincing case (esp. to themselves) about their unique
value either coupled-to or uncoupled-from from institutions. However, I fear the stakes are pretty high now -- the contagion
    of people going bonkers could be fast with social media.   A
    healthy society is one where individuals can mature to the point
    they can begin to doubt the meaning in their own anxiety (whether
    by themselves, with their shrink or their spiritual authority)
    and make it to the next day.


    Marcus

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    *From:* Friam <friam-boun...@redfish.com>
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    > Their desperation and rage just comes from a feeling that they
    can't confront, that they just don't have much to offer.
    >
    > Marcus

    Reading this, I feel like you could found a new generation of
    something that is like existentialist philosophy but equally-well
    political theory.

    It is not so far from Nietzche’s notion that “God is dead”
    creates a problem for people, and they will face a fork in the
    road in how they try to deal with it.  Maybe even, considering
    the currents running through European and particularly German
    society at the time he was writing (and that he specifically
    wrote about), driven by concerns based on similar observations.

    It strikes me that this is an available point of view for almost
    any person.  Granted, the distribution of rewards and
    frustrations differs from person to person and also from region
    to region, and that matters.  But the black box (black hole?) of
    how minds form characters and orientations in response to streams
    of these things draws from an immense and to me-obscure range of
    inputs.

    Makes me wonder,

    Eric


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