I'll buy the ones Steven Smith mentioned. But those are mainly weather and related. I guess that could be generalized to weather and geology.
I don't see why formation of galaxies, stars and planets would be considered a complex system phenomenon unless all of physics would be. A vortex or hurricane or other dissipative system? I'd rule out high speed trading since it's done with computers and works only because it interacts with people trading. All the examples I like (weather, etc.) are open systems that have energy flowing through them. That often generates interesting phenomena. (As we mentioned above dissipative systems <https://goo.gl/WGAZ9Q>.) Do you think that's enough to qualify a system as complex? (I know, as Steve said, it's a fuzzy term.) They all reflect "emergence" of some sort -- even though I don't like that term these days. But they lack the quality of complexity that we find in systems containing agents with some degree of autonomy. Are there any non-biological, non-human, non-computer systems that would qualify as consisting of autonomous agents? On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 8:48 PM Gillian Densmore <[email protected]> wrote: > Although Donder's Son may have a fine example. The clouds (gas things) > Jupiter or saturns weather are fine example of complicated stuff only > those planets make. > > On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 9:04 PM, Steven A Smith <[email protected]> wrote: > >> "Complex Systems" being a somewhat fuzzy concept, this is hard/easy to >> answer. >> >> >> Any physical system comprised of large numbers of similar or identical >> elements which interact and yield non-linear collective behaviour seems >> like a good enough definition for your purposes. Sand dune formation and >> (breaking) waves and cloud formation/dissipation all seem like pretty good >> candidates, not to mention the aforementioned weather in general. >> Earthquake/Rift/Mountain formain seems like a good fit as well as wind/rain >> erosion of soil in general. >> >> On 5/24/17 8:56 PM, cody dooderson wrote: >> >> Is a vortex like a funnel cloud or the Saturn's hexagon considered a >> complex system? >> >> Cody Smith >> >> On Wed, May 24, 2017 at 8:31 PM, Marcus Daniels <[email protected]> >> wrote: >> >>> High speed trading comes close to not involving people. Other >>> examples that come to mind involve some autonomous (biological) agent >>> creating demand. For example, energy or data or transportation networks >>> are responding to a logistical demand created by people. Netflix (vs. >>> adaptive routing) is a demand created by people. >>> >>> >>> >>> As companies like Google begin to build agents that build models and >>> satisfy constraints the requests they initiate will become more adaptive. >>> >>> >>> >>> *From:* Friam [mailto:[email protected]] *On Behalf Of *Russ >>> Abbott >>> *Sent:* Wednesday, May 24, 2017 6:59 PM >>> *To:* FRIAM <[email protected]> >>> *Subject:* [FRIAM] Any non-biological complex systems? >>> >>> >>> >>> Are there any good examples of a complex system that doesn't involve >>> biological organisms (including human beings)? >>> >>> ============================================================ >>> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >>> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >>> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >>> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >>> >> >> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >> >> >> >> ============================================================ >> FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv >> Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College >> to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com >> FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >> > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove
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