> > problematize (Ugh!) the Deweyan to see as problematic?
On Fri, Jan 27, 2017 at 5:57 PM, Nick Thompson <nickthomp...@earthlink.net> wrote: > Hi everybody, > > > > I kind of got buried by the list last week, but we seem to keep coming > back to this topic, even when we are talking about globalism. > > > > So. Let me just share one thought. I have said a hundred times that I > think the great achievement of the Right in my life time has been to > problematize (Ugh!) the Deweyan consensus of the 1950’s One of the > elements of that consensus was that there is a truth of most matters and if > we gather inclusively, talk calmly, reason closely, study carefully, > investigate rigorously, we will, together , come to it. What was, at the > time of my coming of age, the shared foundation of argument, became over > last 50 years, *a position in the argument. *The alternative to this > Deweyan position seems to be something like, “*There is no truth of the > matter; there is only the exercise of power. He who wins the argument, by > whatever means, wins the truth. Truth is not something that is arrived at; > it is won.”* > > > > So. My sense of trump is that in fact, he is not lying. On the contrary, > he does not share the view of discourse that makes lying a possibility. > From Trump’s point of view, “Whatever I can win with is true.” Hence, if > he wins with what we call “a lie”, it is true. > > > > I feel we are straying along the edge of some *Nietzschean *chasm here. > Unfortunately I haven’t read any Nietzsche . A brief rummage in > Wikipedia, led me to The Parable of the Madman > <http://sourcebooks.fordham.edu/mod/nietzsche-madman.asp>. And THAT led > me to wonder if the TV Series, Madmen > <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mad_Men>, about marketing execs in the > 60’s, was written with Nietzsche in mind. In any case, if there is ever a > domain in which the truth is that which wins, it would be marketing. > > > > So, if we are going to counter Trump, it cannot be by demonstrating that > he lies. It has to be by demonstrating that liars don’t win. > > > > Heavy lift. > > > > Nick > > > > > > > > Nicholas S. Thompson > > Emeritus Professor of Psychology and Biology > > Clark University > > http://home.earthlink.net/~nickthompson/naturaldesigns/ > > > > ============================================================ > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > to unsubscribe http://redfish.com/mailman/listinfo/friam_redfish.com > FRIAM-COMIC http://friam-comic.blogspot.com/ by Dr. Strangelove >
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