OK.  I've had some chance to read a bit about this spiritualist concept of 
nondualism.  It's much too spiritual for me, since I don't believe in spirits or 
anything of the sort. >8^)

But one question came to the front everytime I tried to read about it:  Why do all these New 
Thought religions insist that their religious experiences always be _good_ or pleasant?  They 
always talk about being at peace or "at one with the universe" or whatnot.  I'm not a big 
fan of Christianity.  But at least, there, when you encounter an angel, it can be very frightening, 
almost Lovecraftian... and there's all this lore surrounding not being able to look God in the face 
and such.  I've had what I could easily call religious experiences (like the way time slowed to a 
crawl right before a car crash when I was in high school ... or the near catatonic state induced by 
Catholic Mass as a kid) and I'd say that maybe 2/3 of them were good or pleasant.  The rest were 
frightening or anxious, especially the "gestalt-busting" ones that caused me to rethink 
my whole world view.

This is why the New Thought religions, including nondualism, seem like advertisements for 
multi-level marketing schemes... like Amway.  Become one of us and you, too, can own 3 
mansions and a yaht!  They're only one or a few steps more interesting than things like 
the "prosperity gospel" (http://www.ourladyofperpetualexemption.com/).

Why would religious experience necessarily be pleasant or good?  (Especially as 
a former libertarian, the thought of becoming one with he universe is 
horrifying... It's socialist propoganda!  It's heat death!  Run!  Run towards 
your perverted individuality!)


On 11/02/2015 04:17 PM, Rich Murray wrote:
I enjoyed Friam for a few years -- glad to see a few others have ventured
into expanded awareness explorations, like Zen -- shared paranormal
experience is core to conveying mysticism -- this is becoming more
prominent in recent years with the proliferation of free video teaching,
crafted to induce expanded states in the viewers -- just Google
"nonduality" ... the style is to deepen the real-time process of intimate
communication about moment by moment raw experience, while agreeing on
shared positive goals -- this leads to viewpoints and vistas that
completely shift and expand human experience beyond the usual limits...


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⇔ glen

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