Owen -

Thanks for this sweet oddity. I heard of it "back in the day" but never looked closely. By that time CA had lost some of their cachet in the community. The CA encoding of the Ants and Turmites *is* particularly motivated IMO... that the complexity of the "ground" is lower than the complexity of the "agent", but both are very simple and relate directly to eachother.

Last time I talked to Chris was on the steps at St. Johns... maybe 1999!?! Last I heard he was in Sausalito or Marin living on a houseboat or a sailboat, but that was at least third hand and now years stale.

I met Chris in 1983 when he first presented his Loops <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langton%27s_loops> at the CA conference in Los Alamos <http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/journal/01672789/10/1>. That was an amazing pivotal moment, that conference. Was anyone else in that world at the time? It was mostly "young turks" (Packard, Farmer, Toffolli, Wolfram, HIllis, Burks, Crutchfield, Margolus) with a few of the "seasoned veterans" (Ed Fredkin, Forrest Carter, JH Conway, et al) and tweeners like Stu Kauffman and Bill Gosper. I of course, had no idea where I was at the time, I was so busy spinning around trying to absorb it all! I was a total outsider.

My own contribution <http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/0167278984902598> at the time, along with Stuart Hameroff, <http://www.quantumconsciousness.org/> could have been a *lot* more informed by Carter's work in molecular computing, but somehow I missed that until later when Feynman gave his "plenty of room at the bottom" lecture at LANL the next year...

- Steve
Interesting "complexity" stunt I hadn't heard of:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Langtons_ant
.. from twitter (https://twitter.com/CompSciFact)

Anyone in touch with Chris nowadays? He's one of the pioneers, at SFI in the early days, but I haven't read any of his works and would like to. Any recommended readings?

 -- Owen



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