On 12/5/13 12:08 PM, Owen Densmore wrote:
On Thu, Dec 5, 2013 at 11:20 AM, Steve Smith <[email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>>wrote:

    150, 240, 900 !?

    ?!What!?  are you guys addicted to?   Including PINs for
    bank-cards (not used online) I can't estimate over a dozen or two
    myself.


Exactly!  But you do have > 100 and you know it
I really don't...
How many on-line gifts? How many forums, even for trivial use? How many mail lists? How many bank, credit card, paypal logins? Amazon? Google? Moocs? Travel related? Airlines? NetFlix/Hulu/iTunes? Gmail? Dropbox? GitHub? Clothing? Shopping in general? NYTimes and other news sources? LinkedIn, Facebook, Twitter, G+, ...
I use the G constellation with one password (one of it's features)... I don't Yahoo. I don't Mooc, I use only Southwest Airlines (and while I have a "rapid rewards number" I don't have a password/account)... I have a Mac account which covers iTunes/apps/stuff... my wife has the Netflix account, no Hulu, no Facebewk, recently re-linked in... use Google Drive (see above) . I don't shop,and I don't read anything with a paywall ($6 NYT Sunday old fashioned newsprint at Tesuque Village Market most weeks... need it for firestarter in my woodstoves)...

I could go on but dozens.  I seriously, Seriously doubt it.

    OK maybe hundreds over decades, but ... current?


Not so fast, mister!  They're still there and very hackable.
no, some services/servers are long gone, but yes, I could lose my login on some of the "throwaways" but I've lost nothing of value to me... usually a psuedonymous ID and one of my Hashwords. If someone gathered all my abandoned psuedonymic throwaways and Hashwords and cracked them they might begin to get a hint of my hashWord algorithm. Remember, until 5 years ago I lived behind firewalls and proxies and close scrutiny... I just didn't sign up for much.

    Admittedly, I have probably cranked through a similar number of
    "throwaways" where I've signed up for something (because that is
    the only way to sample/test) and then let the login die or go
    fallow (and my hashword) with it.    But hundreds?  Really? I'm
    worried about you guys!  They have groups and 12 step programs for
    things like this!


Login die? You sure? And indeed, how many folks can "delete" an account? Most don't have an obvious way do do so.
Yes, not all dead, deprecated in the sense that I haven't logged since the first 1,2, 3 times to realize that said service wasn't very useful to me... and again... psuedonym (my favorites are word scrambles of "Owen Densmore" or "Doug Roberts" ;)

    As for mnemonics or mental-hash-generators (hashwords?)... my
    decades of high security environments where writing my password
    down anywhere (including or especially electronically) or sharing
    it with anyone (e.g. speaking it aloud) was a felony or low
    treason or something, I just can't stand to see a password in
    clear text... it makes me cringe...   so a whole spreadsheet of my
    family jewels... I just couldn't...

    I only wish there were a 2-factor system for the masses that isn't
    spoofable (the ones that use your Mac address of your device are
    better than nothing but not unspoofable by far).

    - Steve


I am so worried about you guy who don't know just how many logins you have! :
grin... touche... I will maybe inventory, but you can bet I won't write them (passwords) down...

- Steve
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