On Thu, Mar 14, 2013 at 12:06 PM, Parks, Raymond <rcpa...@sandia.gov> wrote:
> > On Mar 14, 2013, at 11:43 AM, Owen Densmore wrote: > <snip> > How about Chrome OS? The twitter world is betting on Mozilla over Google > in the browser-as-OS world. Possibly because Brenden Eich became CTO > recently. Also their phone promises a way to have "responsive design" > webapps become universal, getting rid of the need for customized > android/iphone/windows apps. That's a pretty big win for perplexed > companies moving into mobile. > > > Unless Mozilla can get out of their cruft rut, their browser-as-OS will > be really slow and unresponsive. As much as I like Firefox and its > security plug-ins, I've had to give up on it on my Android phone - it's a > memory and processing hog. Firefox has grown bigger and slower with every > version. Also, Mozilla doesn't have desktop applications ready. > Here I disagree. Past, yes .. pretty crufty. Now not. Why? Brenden Eich. He gets promoted to CTO. W/in a week, he pushes several things to the top of the Moz stack which I think are important. Certainly asm.js. This could be seriously ground-breaking. Also the Moz phone work tripled as far as the buzz and the new phone. Apps? Guess what, most of the android apps are now already ported to the new RIM Z10 blackberry. I doubt Moz would have problems. Just look at the Tweets from Moz engineers. They've been let free. I think they can easily topple Google in the OS world, and even the phone. Here's a Hollywood story: Moz partners with TMo to bulid a phone that's really open and fits with the "Stop the bullshit" message from TMo. They port all the android stuff. They use asm.js to have the fastest phone browser. At that point they start selling the Phone Web App story: phonegap approach HTML5/CSS3/JavaScript. And guess what? They have the best mobile platform on the planet. Coupled with GSM, they escape the North American border. Apple? Hell any marketing group can push them to the High Priced Spread .. elites only. Nice flick! > How about Dart? Consider ASM.js vs Dart. Which would you bet on? I'm > still betting on Mozilla's ASM.js because its simply more fundamental and > understandable and even is part of a C++ to JS translation effort > > > Apples vs Oranges - asm.js is a subset of javascript for which Dart is a > ground-up replacement. The real comparison is how much penetration has > Dart made into implementations (apparently, negligible). > Dart: 0 Asm.js: HUGE! Even LLJS and similar earlier stunts are folding with LLJS *compiling* to asm.js. MS TypeScript is perfect for compiling to asm.js. The trick? Moz is anonymous .. most of the noise is from engineers from Moz which Moz loves: they don't WANT to be Google or Mozilla. They want to succeed. I wish FF was not so ugly! Look. We thought the phone market was pwned by iDevices. Then comes Android. Whoot! Way cool and all the ordinaries go for it. So what do you think would stop Moz? They have a handset. And an OS. Cutting the unholy trinity down to two has been a win for Apple, but not Google .. just look at Doug's posts. And Eich? Well, who else in 10 days produced not one but two choices for Netscape as the DOM language? -- Owen
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