Nice summary.
BTW: Odd no one suggested simply using Dreamweaver or similar tool. Just plain
old fashioned web pages and images up in the cloud work just fine for most
folks needing a simple site.
And I think both Mac and Windows have built-in HTML/Site editors, and also
hosting of some sort.
-- Owen
On May 21, 2011, at 9:59 AM, David Collins wrote:
> Joomla and Drupal are the leading content management systems other than
> Wordpress, which has widely been deployed as a CMS though was primarily
> developed to host "blog" content. In the broadest sense, without facing
> particular requirements, we can consider the big 3 as a contiuum from easiest
> to most robust - Wordpress being the easiest and Drupal being the most
> robust, with Joomla in the middle.
>
> Joomla tends to be favored because it's a true content management system (as
> opposed to a blogging system) a generally user-friendly admin interface.
> Drupal is widely preferred for it's modular extensibility. Wordpress might be
> the best system for users with no development experience. It's often the
> easiest to install with point-and-click methods, customize in the same manner
> and to start producing content with no significant learning curve.
>
> For users who deploy non-text content -- e.g. data -- Drupal offers
> content-creation tools that far surpass the extensibility of either Wordpress
> or Joomla. Drupal is by far the more developer-oriented system.
>
> With each of these content systems, if you ask a person who primarily markets
> their service as a specialist in that system, you are likely to hear a strong
> list of reasons why that system meats all of one's needs. If, instead, you
> take a particular set of requirements and try to implement them in one system
> or the other, you are more likely to learn the particular limitations of each
> system
>
> Drupal, for example, can do almost anything one might require of a typical
> Web site, but if it is configured with too many modules, one may encounter
> limits on the capacity of a shared server. I found Drupal better suited to
> Web-service driven content, for example. There are shopping carts available
> for each of the systems, but Drupal's carts offer more robust features.
>
> Ultimately, if one were asking the question of "What is the best content
> management system" one might as well ask "what is the best number." Each of
> the three systems have the advantage of a large community of developers,
> which can make them superior to other solutions. In my experience, however, I
> prefer a system I wrote, which allows more flexible access to html and more
> granular control of access than Wordpress, without the vast and sometimes
> perplexing admin interface of Drupal.
>
> Which of the top three is best for a a particular application or for a
> business model can depend on the familiarity of developers (and designers)
> with one particular system, and what one wants to do with a particular system.
>
>
> On Fri, May 20, 2011 at 11:07 AM, Owen Densmore <[email protected]> wrote:
> Speaking of very successful Content Management Systems (Wordpress), what has
> become of Joomla? http://www.joomla.org/
>
> I ask because the second most popular question (first is blogging) is "How do
> I make a website easily"?
>
> Wordpress actually works fine for a website -- note SFX uses it. But there
> was considerable interest in Joomla as well, but I haven't heard much about
> it lately.
>
> -- Owen
>
> On May 19, 2011, at 11:47 AM, Tyler White wrote:
>
> > Go self-hosted Wordpress blog. No other option comes close at the moment.
> >
> > Tyler White¹
> > http://TylerWhiteDesign.com
> > http://twitter.com/Uberousful
> >
> > On May 19, 2011, at 11:29 AM, Nicholas Thompson wrote:
> >
> >> Saul,
> >>
> >> I suppose it depends on whether you have a nerdy brain.
> >>
> >> N
> >>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> >> Behalf
> >> Of Saul Caganoff
> >> Sent: Thursday, May 19, 2011 3:43 AM
> >> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> >> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] blog recomendations?
> >>
> >> "nerdy heart" - is that good or bad?
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >> On 19/05/2011, at 2:42 PM, Nicholas Thompson <[email protected]>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> My slight experience with WordPress made me feel that it had a nerdy
> >> heart.
> >>> Don't be ashamed to try something that costs a little and doesn't have
> >>> the notion that learning obscure finger-mantras is good for your soul.
> >>>
> >>> But I probably don't know what I am talking about.
> >>>
> >>> Nick
> >>>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On
> >>> Behalf Of Gillian Densmore
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, May 18, 2011 5:28 PM
> >>> To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
> >>> Subject: Re: [FRIAM] blog recomendations?
> >>>
> >>> Wordpress is indeed pretty sweet. You might also want to check out
> >>> googles I think it's called blogger you may need a google acount to use
> >> it.
> >>> On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 7:12 PM, Robert J. Cordingley
> >>> <[email protected]> wrote:
> >>>> Hi Eric
> >>>> WordPress. If you get stuck or need some customizing I can help you.
> >>>> There are tons of plugins for almost anything - very extensible.
> >>>> Robert Cordingley
> >>>> cirrillian.com
> >>>>
> >>>> On 5/17/11 4:56 PM, ERIC P. CHARLES wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> Hey all,
> >>>> Against all my wife's better judgment, I am considering starting a blog.
> >>>> Enough of my professional colleagues have them, and enough
> >>>> interesting stuff seems to be happening on them, that it seems a good
> >>>> idea. I was hoping for some collective wisdom about the pros and cons
> >>>> of different blogging platforms. I do, in theory, have the ability to
> >>>> host it myself, or to use Penn State's in-house system, but my
> >>>> initial inclination is to go with an established entity that makes it
> >>>> easy to do things like track other blogs and track user stats. I'm
> >>>> not even sure what other factors I should care about.
> >>>>
> >>>> Again, any collective wisdom would be appreciated!
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>>
> >>>> Eric
> >>>>
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