Both systems can be viewed as complex
adaptive systems consisting of many interacting
agents that adapt and learn from their interactions
with one another:

system: economic system - ecosystem
agent: organism - company
interaction: food webs - supply chains

One major difference is perhaps what the
agents do with their supply, the agents
of ecosystems are more "selfish":

* Organisms consume s.th. to produce more of
  themselves, they maintain themselves with food,
  and they produce stuff necessary to make more
  copies of themselves. Agent and product are
  identical.

* Companies consume s.th. to produce a product
  which is different from themselves. Agent and
  product are different.

On the one hand, economic systems are more
complex and more differentiated than ecologic
systems. Companies can consume other companies
to produce larger companies and to maintain
themselves, but they also generate a product
which is independent from themselves.

On the other hand, ecologic systems are much
more sophisticated, since they are unbeatable in
green technology, regenerative energy and natural
recycling ;-)

-J.


----- Original Message ----- From: Russ Abbott
To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group
Cc: Alexandre Lomovtsev ; Shuger,Debora ; Porter,Edith
Sent: Sunday, October 17, 2010 6:35 AM
Subject: [FRIAM] Economy vs. ecology


I've been thinking about the differences between our economic system and a natural ecology. Since I'm not an expert in either I'm writing this in the hope that someone who is will clarify any issues I get wrong.

It seems to me that a fundamental difference is that natural ecologies are supply-driven. By that I mean that the supply of resources (food, sunshine, etc.) is the primary determinant of how the ecology functions. (I'm not talking here about transitions when a species invades an ecology and upsets the pre-existing balance. I want to focus at least at the beginning on ecologies that have achieved a fairly stable state.) In such ecologies fairly well-defined food webs are established. These determine the sizes of the various populations, etc. Of course there are or can be cycles such as the standard predator-prey cycle. But even in these cases, the whole thing is supply driven. It's what's available (primarily to be eaten) that determines everything else.

Our economic system is for the most part supply-driven. The economy is not completely detached from the need for basic energy and other natural resource supplies. If there are supply shocks in these areas, the economy will feel them. But for the most part what most people do (as economic agents) depends on whether someone is willing to pay them. That means that most people are dependent on the demand (for their services) rather than the supply (of available food). Our current economic situation illustrates that very well. We are currently demand-deficient. Not enough people want to buy enough things (or services) to keep us all employed. This seems very strange and artificial. That so much of the economy depends on demand rather than supply makes it very vulnerable to the kind of problems we face today.


But as I said, our economy is not completely demand driven. We are still supply dependent. Working with others I'm hoping to build a model that illustrates where the tipping point is. When does a supply-driven ecology become a demand-dependent economy? Is it a sharp phase transition? Can it be characterized in terms of other properties? Comments are welcome.

-- Russ Abbott
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