On Dec 21, 2009, at 1:45 PM, glen e. p. ropella wrote:
> Nick sent me this privately, in the hopes of respecting the list
> members' time and attention, but upon my reply, he suggested I submit it
> to the list for your erudite ridicule:

Otherwise we would have missed another fascinating thread..I regret that I 
spend some much time dealing with OSGi plugin loading policies and PDE builds 
(don't even ask) that I don't get a chance to take a closer look at these 
often..anyway..

> 
> Quoting Nicholas Thompson circa 09-12-19 12:01 PM:
>> (doing mathematics) : (formal proof) :: (doing computer science):
>> (programming) :: (doing philosophy) : (symbolic logic) 

It's interesting, because you could also pair these in terms of rigor v. 
practicality, and get something like:

formal proof => doing mathematics
doing computer science => programming
symbolic logic => doing philosophy

IOTW, if Nick's analogy is about expertise and mine is about relevance, we can 
see that they are orthogonal. Of course, we already knew that :) but it's an 
interesting accidental discovery. (I guess there aren't any other kinds of 
discoveries..anyway..) 

The more I think about it, the less clear it is too me what we mean by 
formalism altogether, which I guess is what you guys have been -- oh yeah, I 
see that Glen just said everything I could have hoped to say on this and 
more..never mind. :)

I do find the symbolic logic => philosophy connection to be the most 
challenging, in the sense that it sticks in my craw, but I don't know if I can 
justify why. I guess that we already see the targets of the other two to be 
inherent idealizations, whereas we pretend at least that philosophy can also 
embrace the real.
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