I agree that there does not appear *to us* to be a non-hosted solution.

But *to them*, the participants, I believe there is a scenario that would work.

You have to remember that the participants have not been able to identify a systems administrator willing to manage a hosted solution. Thus the logical solution is that a non-hosted solution of the sort you mention *must* succeed, OR that they *must* become engaged enough to provide an administrator.

QED.

Remember we're dealing with both cultural and generational issues here that you and I are unqualified to judge, thus unqualified to foist our solution upon.

    -- Owen


On Nov 23, 2009, at 12:50 PM, Robert J. Cordingley wrote:

And I'd also like to sail the sea in a sieve because it's cheap. FB, TW, BS, PBW, etc are froth on that sea. (But perhaps here is the big picture: Non Sequitur.) Just look at the deteriorating signal to noise ratio.

Serious needs require serious solutions not mash-ups (which are fragile) but a match-up of real organization needs with real functionality.

There.  I said it.  Now, someone prove me wrong!

Robert C.


Owen Densmore wrote:
But let me be clear why I'm trying all this stuff. SFX has found itself without administrators and with a hosting service that's more difficult, but much more computer savvy, than facebook, twitter, blogspot, pbwiki, ... Basically we have a user community with contempt for computing and complexity both. (there are a few exceptions, natch)

So several of us who alas are computer savvy, are starting to think we should move sfx off a hosting service with its complexity onto the pre-built, user oriented, non-hosted cloud. And to be fair, there's a lot of good stuff that is starting to merge into something that could replace Joyent/Wordpress with a mashup of Blogspot, Google Docs, Twitter, Facebook, Maps/Earth, Youtube, Flickr, and so on.

I think we old timers have pushed the new generation non-tech folks into a trap they'd prefer to skip. So I'd like to give them their head for a bit and see how it goes. Become self-administered. No joke, I'm for real here. Lose hosting, replace with the flower- child web. I think they can pull it off.

And, no, I Won't Fix Their Computer!  :)

   -- Owen


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