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Ann Racuya-Robbins
Founder and CEO World Knowledge Bank www.wkbank.com
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Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 11:41:38 -0600
From: Ann Racuya-Robbins <[email protected]>
Reply-To: Ann Racuya-Robbins <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: [FRIAM] Invitation to Conversation/Discussion/Debate
To: "glen e. p. ropella" <[email protected]>
Yes Glen I think most but not all of the differences have come to
light in face to face interaction. I don't believe we have ever met or
spoken face to face but I have of course seen many of your posts on
Friam. I don't remember having much disagreement with your comments in
general. I can see however, from your response below that you and I
have something to discuss as well. I would like to make a more
complete response and will do so later.
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Ann Racuya-Robbins
Founder and CEO World Knowledge Bank www.wkbank.comQuoting "glen e.
p. ropella" <[email protected]>:
Emitted by Ann Racuya-Robbins circa 01/04/09 12:58 PM:
I have come to the conclusion a number of thoughtful people at Friam,
the Santa Fe Institute and the Complex and I may well have a
fundamental, important, genuine and sincere philosophical difference of
opinion about the future of the information/knowledge culture that is
emerging in the world today. This difference includes how and when
people should be rewarded for what they know? What is the most equitable
way for people to share what they know? What does it mean for something
to be ?free?? These are some of the areas of difference. I have spent
decades thinking about these things but no one knows everything and I am
sure I have more to learn.
This is a bit cryptic. I presume the particulars of any disagreements
have come to light in face-to-face conversations? How and when you do
_you_ think people should be rewarded for what they know? How and when
does your opposition think people should be rewarded for what they know?
What do you think it means for something to be "free"? And what does
the opposition think?
Personally, I believe people _should_ do almost precisely what they
already do. I.e. there are wide distributions for how and when people
get rewarded for what they know and that's how it "should" be. From
your using "should" in your question, I infer you think that (at least
some) people are NOT rewarded in the way or at the time they _should_ be
rewarded.
Likewise, I tend to think that nothing is ever free. "Free" is a
delusion we willingly engage in so as to "externalize costs and
internalize profits". For example, "free software" is free in neither
sense of the word (free beer or positive freedoms). Like proprietary
software, the costs and benefits exist, they are just in different
places and require attention at different times.
If the above discussion is irrelevant to what you intended, then please
elaborate and clarify!
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glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com[1[1]]
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Yes Glen I think most but not all of the differences have come to
light in face to face interaction. I don't believe we have ever met or
spoken face to face but I have of course seen many of your posts on
Friam. I don't remember having much disagreement with your comments in
general. I can see however, from your response below that you and I
have something to discuss as well. I would like to make a more
complete response and will do so later.
--
Ann Racuya-Robbins
Founder and CEO World Knowledge Bank www.wkbank.comQuoting "glen e.
p. ropella" <[email protected]>:
Emitted by Ann Racuya-Robbins circa 01/04/09 12:58 PM:
I have come to the conclusion a number of thoughtful people at Friam,
the Santa Fe Institute and the Complex and I may well have a
fundamental, important, genuine and sincere philosophical difference of
opinion about the future of the information/knowledge culture that is
emerging in the world today. This difference includes how and when
people should be rewarded for what they know? What is the most equitable
way for people to share what they know? What does it mean for something
to be ?free?? These are some of the areas of difference. I have spent
decades thinking about these things but no one knows everything and I am
sure I have more to learn.
This is a bit cryptic. I presume the particulars of any disagreements
have come to light in face-to-face conversations? How and when you do
_you_ think people should be rewarded for what they know? How and when
does your opposition think people should be rewarded for what they know?
What do you think it means for something to be "free"? And what does
the opposition think?
Personally, I believe people _should_ do almost precisely what they
already do. I.e. there are wide distributions for how and when people
get rewarded for what they know and that's how it "should" be. From
your using "should" in your question, I infer you think that (at least
some) people are NOT rewarded in the way or at the time they _should_ be
rewarded.
Likewise, I tend to think that nothing is ever free. "Free" is a
delusion we willingly engage in so as to "externalize costs and
internalize profits". For example, "free software" is free in neither
sense of the word (free beer or positive freedoms). Like proprietary
software, the costs and benefits exist, they are just in different
places and require attention at different times.
If the above discussion is irrelevant to what you intended, then please
elaborate and clarify!
--
glen e. p. ropella, 971-222-9095, http://agent-based-modeling.com[1]
============================================================
FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv
Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College
lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org[2]
I love the "Emitted by....
BW
ARR
Links:
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[1] http://agent-based-modeling.com/
[2] http://www.friam.org/
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