Tom and Nick, The GLASS workshop is the first of many - some will be shorter in duration, but all will be workshops where you have the opportunity to learn and immediately apply your knowledge to real software, not canned examples that some instructor wrote.
Future offerings are dependent, to a degree, on proving that people will in fact sign-up and pay for the workshops. The GLASS week will be test. Re: "why desktop" -- Web delivered software has generally lacked the sophistication, functionality, efficiency. and "bling" of desktop apps. To the extent that Web-services and Cloud computing really are the future, we need to be able to close the perceived gap with desktop apps. I think that GLASS has promise, but I could be wrong. I am really curious to see what the limitations might be when people at the Complex try to do what they do in their day jobs, with GLASS. davew On Sun, 15 Feb 2009 17:56:43 -0700, "Tom Johnson" <[email protected]> said: > And I, too, would pay to attend such a workshop. > > -tj > > On Sun, Feb 15, 2009 at 5:48 PM, Nick Frost <[email protected]> wrote: > > > On Feb 15, 2009, at 4:52 PM, Roger Critchlow wrote: > > > > That's a hard google: GLASS = Gemstone Linux Apache Seaside Smalltalk = > >> http://seaside.gemstone.com which didn't appear on the first page of any > >> search until I knew to include gemstone in the search terms. > >> > >> Why for desktop applications? It's presenting itself as a refactored LAMP > >> (Linux Apache Mysql Php) stack? If you want infidel participation in a > >> 4-1/2 day workshop you really need to make more of a case. > >> > > > > I'm thankful to Roger for helping me strike yet one more book off my wish > > list (Ruby Programming) as that will save a few pennies. > > > > Speaking from the neophyte point-of-view of someone who wouldn't dare call > > himself a programmer but as one who writes simple programs (mostly in BASH, > > PERL, and Python) I'm interested in the GLASS workshop merely for what more > > I might learn about programming in general. Most of what I've written over > > the years is for systems administration (mostly in BASH) and I doubt I've > > written anything in my career or amateur experimentation over 500 lines. I > > don't know if there's a workshop series planned, but think it's safe to say > > I know more than one person who would be willing to pay for a 1-4 day > > computer programming workshop that covered coding topics (GLASS, Python, C, > > PERL, etc.). I'd like to learn more about Python programming. I don't know > > if there are enough like-minded people to make running such a workshop or > > series at the sfComplex worthwhile? For me my interest is as much in > > learning about the process and fundamentals than the language. I just > > wonder how many people there are who, instead of plugging along blindly with > > O'Reilly books and writing small programs for specific projects, might like > > to take a class for a few days to learn from an expert or two. I'm willing > > to wager that a few people on the NMLUG and/or NMGLUG lists might be > > interested as well. Maybe the constituency is already being served by the > > CSF curriculum, but I think there might be working people who haven't time > > for a class but who would have time for a programming workshop. > > > > -Nick > > > > ---------------------------------------- > > Nicholas S. Frost > > 7 Avenida Vista Grande #325 > > Santa Fe, NM 87508 > > [email protected] > > ---------------------------------------- > > > > > > ============================================================ > > FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv > > Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College > > lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org > > > > > > -- > ========================================== > J. T. Johnson > Institute for Analytic Journalism -- Santa Fe, NM USA > www.analyticjournalism.com > 505.577.6482(c) 505.473.9646(h) > http://www.jtjohnson.com [email protected] > > "You never change things by fighting the existing reality. > To change something, build a new model that makes the > existing model obsolete." > -- Buckminster Fuller > ========================================== ============================================================ FRIAM Applied Complexity Group listserv Meets Fridays 9a-11:30 at cafe at St. John's College lectures, archives, unsubscribe, maps at http://www.friam.org
