Alfredo, Thanks. Wow, Im sorry trying to talk about my work has been a struggle over language, somehow, but you could hardly ask for a better recommendation for it than Kauffmans numerous rigorous and compelling reasons why a new approach fitting his problem statement like mine does is needed. If anyone knows people in the larger Santa Fe community that might be interested in successful applications for the world Kauffman painted, locating good answerable questions about physical system evolutionary processes by direct study of them, please pass this on to them.
Its the accumulative creativity of processes throughout the universe, not deducible in any reasonable approximation by any known kind of general laws or language. Its how natural form is continually changing in new improbably creative ways and presented to us as an integrated record of inexplicable emergent systems combining countless pre-adapted features which no means of guesswork would ever have identified as having local opportunistic value. Its that intractable distributed historiosity of complex organizational developments that displays the need for a new technique of learning about them lacking any means to realistically represent them or what they are doing. What seems possible is a tractable mathematical historiology of developmental system design that allows you to at least begin a rigorous exploration of the individual design and development of physical systems themselves, directly. I even like his reverence for the discovery that coming to grips with this apparent true form of nature that has been hidden in sight from us for so long calls for more than the normal level of rethinking, our ideas of reality, our ideas of whats sacred. Still, even after proving over and over that we cant represent natural form with any language, he still didnt yet seem to see that the perfect representations already exist, and all we need is to learn was how to study them. The opportunity to make the switch away from representing form with universal laws and math is finding a method of diagnostic exploration of the systems of interest themselves. As Ive mentioned before, www.synapse9.com/PICS.htm my method should even work interactively with exploratory modeling at some point, because it points to where systemization is occurring and changing, and maybe reveals interesting cybernetic body parts to project from the real phenomena and use in definitional form. Reconstructing the evolutions of natural form can start from tracing the temporary conservation of their local laws ¸¸¸¸.·´ ¯ `·.¸¸¸¸ Its a present useful approach to studying real individual systems, at least if you accept looking for simple questions first, and then looking around for others. Best Phil Henshaw systems design science ¸¸¸¸.·´ ¯ `·.¸¸¸¸ ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ 680 Ft. Washington Ave NY NY 10040 tel: 212-795-4844 e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> explorations: www.synapse9.com <http://www.synapse9.com/> "it's not finding what people say interesting, but finding the interest in what they say" From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Alfredo Covaleda Sent: Saturday, November 22, 2008 4:49 PM To: The Friday Morning Applied Complexity Coffee Group Subject: [FRIAM] Stuart Kauffman Hola: Did you watch this? Reinventing the Sacred: Science, Faith and Complexity http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=1380403261776709885 104 minutos Muchos éxitos, Alfredo
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