I cannot help thinking that there is a huge oxymoron when a defense of modeling is made with TEXT

When modeling can demonstrate its causality and need ( TOTALLY explain itself ) using its functions ( Right Brain ) " Demonstrate your technology with your technology " then we are moving along the right track until then we are pontificating or a possible delusion.

Still pondering the implications of Marty Golubitsky who quoted Rene Thom statement /" When you build a model its really just a theory and may have nothing whatsoever to do with the real world except in the opinion of the modelers "/

As for phenomenal models and I will include images of potential models that SPEAK for themselves with awesome potential http://www.edwardtufte.com/tufte/posters Minards 1812 poster and go to Tufte's seminar it will blow your mind ( Figuratively speaking or not depending on who you are with )

Next challenge for Steve and Owen " How do we use cloud technology illustrate and investigate model technology in its full multi dimensional glory

Heck Monty Python did in more ways than wun.

( : ( : pete

Peter Baston

*IDEAS*

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Robert Holmes wrote:
Hmmm.... anyone else troubled by the fact that both definitions of indoctrination seem to be wholly applicable to the Epstein piece?

Robert

On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 10:02 PM, Douglas Roberts <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

    I prefer the dictionary definition:

    Dictionary.com Unabridged (v 1.1)
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    /?n?d?ktr??ne?t/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled
    Pronunciation[in-*dok*-tr/uh/-neyt] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA
    Pronunciation --verb (used with object), -nat·ed, -nat·ing.
    1.  to instruct in a doctrine, principle, ideology, etc., esp. to
    imbue with a specific partisan or biased belief or point of view.



    On Sun, Nov 2, 2008 at 9:55 PM, Marcus G. Daniels
    <[EMAIL PROTECTED] <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>> wrote:

        Douglas Roberts wrote:

            Why think, when there is dogma to save you the bother?

        A quick check of Wikipedia might suggest an explanation..

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Indoctrination
         "Indoctrination is the process of inculcating ideas,
        attitudes, cognitive strategies or a professional methodology."




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